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What happens when you pair two "old fart" c-1'ers in an equally old composite slalom c-2 and have them race a course they've never tried on a set of rapids they've never paddled before? :roll:

It all depends on when the argument begins. :x

I decided to post this tale now because there were witnesses and I want them to only ADD to this and not post their own separate account of the event that occurred (since eyewitness testimony is always shaky, at best :wink: ).

Bob Gunst and I are two older and very experienced cboaters--make that c-1'ers--that came to the same conclusion that paddling a c-2 together in Richmond's adventure games boatercross event was a GOOD idea. We practiced for about an hour in the Deadline c-2 that I have (the Soileau brother's old boat) and had pretty much worked out the kinks on rolling the boat. It was not too difficult since we both paddle left-handed--by the way, did y'all know that "left-handed" in Latin means "sinister"? This becomes apparent later in this tale. Bob was to paddle stern-left and I was to paddle bow-right. Afterall, I CAN paddle on the right and I DO have great confidence in Bob's cboating ability. 8)

Afterward, Bob decides, BRILLIANTLY, that we need a faster boat. I think that idea is brilliant and announce, quite proudly, that we indeed have a MUCH faster boat for the downriver race--it is the OLD slalom c-2 that the Garvi' brothers used to race. In fact, it is the one they used to win the bronze medal at the World's in Italy back in 1983! :D It's the old Appleline "Try-umph"! I'm feeling very confident at this point and went home to clean the boat up and rebuild the stern seat for Bob--gotta keep Bob comfortable in the boat.

It is race day, so Bob and I paddle on over to Belle Isle and carry the boat up to the start of the race where we learn what Jon Lugbill decided to do with the race this year--it is not the same downriver race it was last year :-? . I want to make the point right now that Bob and I showed up at this race quite exhausted and the day was VERY sunny, VERY hot, and VERY humid. I had spent the past three long days on the river paddling hard--1). conducting swim clinics and providing safety for the swimmers; 2). setting up the swim courses for 2 Xterra triathlons; 3). paddling with Bob and practicing for the downriver race; 4). overseeing all the safety boaters and helping the swimmers needing assistance in the Xterra triathlons. It is IMPORTANT for you, the reader, to understand and appreciate the fact that we were BOTH tired and already overheated by the time the race started (Bob had also helped with swimmer safety that day).

Jon Lugbill, staying in tune with the latest trend in whitewater racing, had decided that a 3-mile downriver race was not the thing to do this year. Instead, a boatercross event with elimination rounds of 3-boat heats was a more apt event. The racers were to paddle from the top of one rapid, execute upstream turns and downstream manuvers around floating balls and finish about 20 feet below the last, and biggest, rapid on the river. Bob and I thought it was a GOOD idea and quickly decided on how we were going to execute the final rapid with all its crux moves. We were CONFIDENT! :D

We were the third heat to go and things became obvious right from the start that our plan was not going to work. Our strategy was to launch quickly into the front, cruise to the first ball, power around the upstream turn, cruise past the second ball, run the far left boof over a 6-foot drop, clean the next upstream turn and CAREFULLY ferry over the current at the base of the drop to clean the final upstream turn, and cruise back into the current through the finish line, maintaining our first-place position. Well, it sounds good--even after typing it on here.

This is what happened:

The whistle blows and Bob and I begin to dig HARD to get the boat going (after all, the boat only weighs 30 lb., empty), but the boat SLUGGISHLY begins to move foward and we watch the kyackers zip on ahead of us to the first turn. :o That's not what we planned. We finally get the boat going and I remark to Bob that I just have no gas in my arms for the race. He feels the same and we agree to just cruise through the heat. Well, we were catching the second-place racer (first two boats in each heat advance to the next round) as we were coming up on the big drop when we both agreed to "go for it"! We gun our engines and Bob STRUGGLES to control the boat for the boof as I continue to DIG! He screams something about our line being off and I am eyeballing the kyacker stuck IN the drop as we were lining up. I start grinning maniacally and as we start the boof, I even take the time to twirl the paddle in the air and switch from right-handed paddling to left-handed paddling (Latin definition of left-handed is what?). We clean the boof with a soft landing (thanks, in part, to the unfortunate kyacker :wink: ) and are cleanly in second place. We round the next upstream ball and line up for the BIG crux move. This is where things fall apart for us and opinions of what happened next will differ.

I switch to left-handed paddling, AS AGREED, and yell to Bob that we need to start low, power up to the rock in the current and THEN make the ferry move. Bob vigorously disagrees and wants to take the aggressive line to the rock and zip over. He is also SCREAMING at me to go back to paddling on the right. I disagree with his plan and refuse to switch back to the right (might as well tell me to drop my pants in front of a police officer)--we blow our first attempt. We scramble back into the eddy and continue to argue. I feel that Bob is not listening to me and does not care about my feelings :cry: . Bob is PSYCHED to punch that move and wants to get going again. We come in again behind the rock and blow the move a second time and we become frustrated with each other. So, we line up behind the rock again and I COMMIT myself to the ferry. I don't know what Bob did in the back, but we blast out into the current, blow the ferry and land in the "washing machine" (a hydraulic feature that is aptly named). We bobble out of it, struggle to control the boat, then completely lose it altogether. We flip and the last thing I remember seeing before we go upside down is ME drifting down to a boulder (can you say "upside-down pin? :o ). I unilaterally decide a roll would do me no good and eject out of the boat. I immediately grab the boat to assist Bob and to keep the boat from pinning too badly. Bob tried to roll one or two times, then ejects himself--THROUGH his skirt! The boat goes "CRUNCH" against the rock and we are all floating downstream.

We scramble onto a set of rocks and pull the boat and gear up, everything is accounted for. I am spread-eagled over a boulder holding onto my paddle with one hand, clutching the rock with my other, and one leg is bobbing up and down in the current (still attached to me, of course). I look up to see Bob excitedly jumping up and down as if he is trying to dance a jig and he is pointing back to the rapid. He is yelling something about dumping water out of the boat, getting in, and cleaning the crux move because we still have a chance for second place. I'm laying there exhausted, trying to get the water out of my ear and notice the hole in the boat. As Bob is trying to motivate me, I place my fist through the gaping hole in the boat, then Bob also notices the hole. We politely discuss our options for about 10 minutes--I'm trying to get my breath back and just head downstream with my "tail tucked between my legs"--I just couldn't feel any worse at that time (little did I know :x ). Bob is ALL about redeeming ourselves in front of everyone, so we dump water and compromise on what we are going to do.

We decide to paddle back up to the base of the drop, peel out into the current and paddle downstream with everyone in awe and amazement that we ARE really that good of a c-2 team. We peel out into the current and I do not know what happened, but we cannot control that boat and right back over we go. This time, I see that we are not near any rocks and commit to rolling the boat. I wait upside down for Bob to set himself up and we STRUGGLE the boat back upright, but we DO complete the roll and we pull over into the next eddy.

We limp our way downstream--exhausted, feeling somewhat embarrassed, but a little redeemed with the roll--and make our way back to the takeout. More embarrassment awaits us downstream, but I shall keep that from making it onto this board.

This is MY accounting and attempt to reconcile MY feelings. Some literary license was used in this tale. Anyone else's version of this tale is THEIR opinion and is to be seen only as THEIR viewpoint and NOT fact.


Link to freestyle event and boatercross on the James River:
http://www.fumatrack.com/xterra.htm

KNeal

P.S. Bob and I shall get back in the Deadline and heal ourselves. :D
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Re: Variation on "Poseidon Adventure" (a tragic ta

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KNeal wrote: I want to make the point right now that Bob and I showed up at this race quite exhausted and the day was VERY sunny, VERY hot, and VERY humid. I had spent the past three long days on the river paddling hard--1). conducting swim clinics and providing safety for the swimmers; 2). setting up the swim courses for 2 Xterra triathlons; 3). paddling with Bob and practicing for the downriver race; 4). overseeing all the safety boaters and helping the swimmers needing assistance in the Xterra triathlons. It is IMPORTANT for you, the reader, to understand and appreciate the fact that we were BOTH tired and already overheated by the time the race started (Bob had also helped with swimmer safety that day).
Excuses excuses excuses :lol: wow,you even numbered them.
KNeal wrote: More embarrassment awaits us downstream, but I shall keep that from making it onto this board.
I saw NOTHING..But I DO have pictures :wink:
KNeal wrote:This is MY accounting and attempt to reconcile MY feelings. Some literary license was used in this tale. Anyone else's version of this tale is THEIR opinion and is to be seen only as THEIR viewpoint and NOT fact.
No arguement from me :wink:

I think you guys gave it a great try.Y'all probably could have made the "Scary Ferry"move with no problem,if there wasn't that fist sized"Glory Hole"in the boat.
You don't see too many C-2's on the lower James,come to think of it,That's the first. Let me know when you take it out again(when we get some friggin H2O.)
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well....

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Based on my C2 experience with you KNeal :o I feel Bob's pain! LOL :)
I'm sure you two put on a show, just being who you are, I'm sure the water activites also had to be a enjoyable (for those who watched)!
Glad to hear everyone (except for the boat) is okay!

Shawn - we want pictures for black mail! 8)

Yours in all matters C! Paul C.

PS: Neal now you know why I bought the PLASTIC Hydro! :wink:
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Kneal, is this the "Make Poopie" or the "Gad Zooks! A Craken" face?

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I'm thinking Craken, since it looks like he let go of his grip to cast a defense spell.

It's a shame Bob doesn't visit CBoats... :)
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Kneal, is this the "Make Poopie" or the "Gad Zooks! A Craken" face?
NO NO NO NO NO! :x You ALL misunderstand what you c in the pic. I'm really SMILIN'. :D And I'm doin' a paddle twirl because I'm havin' so much FUN! :roll:

Now I'm feeling defensive. :cry: I gotta find me some redemption.

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I can see this was quite a traumatic experience. Trust me, In time you will heal Neal and I am eager to try again. Now to the subject matter.

1) It was loads of fun.

2) Take no prisoners & MAKE NO EXCUSES

3) Lets just say I am a little blurry on some details so I will accept your recollection as being chronologiclly correct and otherwise fairly accurate. Since we are airing our dirty laundry, I did notice from the Pics that your paddle was frequently out of the water.

4) With both paddlers so close on the same side the stroke timing has to be perfect, like Siamese twins. Albiet with objection, I did apply full effort to the ferry move(s). Frankly, I don't know what approach would have been most effective but I am eager to learn. After the race I did hear someone say most paddlers who made the ferry did so above the big boulder, not below & low.

Someone Please Help Me


PS. I do need to learn that stern roll move & visit the web site more often.
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Since we are airing our dirty laundry, I did notice from the Pics that your paddle was frequently out of the water.
:oops: Umm, well, umm. Hmmm.
MAKE NO EXCUSES
:roll: Well, umm. Hmmm.
It was loads of fun.
:D You got that right.

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Ok, that was fun to read. What a shame that the stern man

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is SO much older than you. Chris Kelly
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Bob:
your expereince with your chosen C-2 partner reminds me of a time a couple of years ago during a Richmond Armada that your C-2 partner talked me into boofing the left side of the drop at Hollywood in an open boat. if memory serves me correctly, our fate was the same as yours....I recall him bailing out leaving me to roll (unsuccesfully) the boat by myself.

There seems to be a patern here with Kneal and his tandem partners...<grin>

Seriously, looks like it was a lot of fun and I'm glad you splatted the kayaker...bet he moves out of the way next time...DM
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