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My old Fiberlastic Phoenix Seewun was as easy to repair as composite but near as tough as poly. There are composite constructions that meet the tough and repairable criterion. I don't know why they are not more popular.

I've coated the bottoms of two decked boats, a Phoenix Seewun and a Noah Magma kayak, with West 105/205. I followed West's recommendations on using foam rollers and applying several coats in close succession, so that later coats bonded to previous coats ...

... I only paddled each one once. The Cascade was close to fishorm. The Gyramax needed more rocker, just behind the cockpit. (Same for my Phoenix Seewun, sort of similar to the GM but rounder, faster, and worse handling.)

... kayaks because the cockpit is quite large.) My first c-1 was a Hahn, and after wasting some time in a Sage, I bought a second hand Phoenix Seewun. It is a very swedeform boat. From the beginning, I noticed a tendency for the bow to bury and the stern to lift in rapids like Tablesaw. But ...

I didn't realize it at the time but my Phoenix "Seewun" was fostering bad habits, failing to foster good ones.

Should've bought a Magnet.

... those in the Slasher, Cascade, or Atom. Those cockpits were designed by lawyers. You want a cockpit just big enough for you. I paddled a Phoenix Seewun for a decade. It had a rather small cockpit, but it was tipped up at the front so entry and exit was easy. Having a just-big-enough cockpit meant ...

When do we do the Gyramax, and the Phoenix Seewun?

I have the following old (20+ years) boats for sale on Vermont Craigslist: Phoenix Seewun (I am pretty sure but not positive it is a Seewun) http://burlington.craigslist.org/boa/2909599492.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Super Batmax (again, not ...

... Some reports must be based on impressions rather than on measures that can be compared. But, that would take the fun out of it. My old Phoenix Seewun is a pretty fast boat, with its low rocker, elliptical cross section, and swedeform hull. Lousy on a slalom course, though. My Dagger Zealot ...

A hull doesn't need edges, doesn't need flatness, to have good initial stability. Borrow my old Phoenix Seewun sometime. No edges, very elliptical. So round, so firm, so easy on the draw. LSMFT.

My Hahn was made of many glass layers and one polypropylene layer, by Bill Crowley in Atlanta. It probably weighted about 50 pounds. My Phoenix Seewun or Slipper, which I called Phlipper, was in the "Fiberlastic" layup. The hull never broke, though I patched one small place where it delaminated. ...

... degree forward lean and to avoid throwing my torso forward and back much at all. But I've had trouble with some c-1s (Millbrook Wide Ride, Phoenix Seewun) where the cocpit puts my weight forward onto a narrow nose. My Zealot didn't do this. maybe because it is the only high rocker Zealot in existence. ...

... it cost new, or just a little older model for $500. But you have to watch and wait. Another c-1 cruiser that started as a kayak is the Phoenix "Seewun", usually called the Slipper. I used one for years, and still have it. I understand that Kent Ford also had a hand in bloating the Phoenix to ...

... Hearn can supply or find skirts to fit various boats. The smallest cockpits I ever saw were on some Noah c-1s. The cockpit on my old Phoenix Seewun is small and takes some slalom skirts. My Dagger Zealot has a somewhat bigger cockpit. I have a Millbrook Wide Ride with one of those weird semi-triangular ...

How did the FG Phoenix c-1 get trimmed to 12 feet? They made the "Seewun," one of which I still own, and it is standard old slalom length, 13' 2".

The Seewun lacks rocker, but it is a fast cruising hull. Mine is the "Fiberlastic" layup, heavy as a Gyramax, but longer lasting.