Mohawk XL-12 Information?

BoatApe · Post by **BoatApe** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:03 pm

Does anyone have any scoop on the old Mohawk XL-12 model? Like max paddler size, handling characteristics? I haven't been able to find much on it out in the etherworld.

Thanks.

Silent Bob · Post by **Silent Bob** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:19 pm

My first boat was an XL-12 (circa 1992). It's somewhat "old school"- wide, round, and not much rocker, so it is not that quick to turn. That said, it's not a bad boat and much less barge-like than the similar 13-14 foot boats that were around at the time. I was about 160# at the time, I found it a lot easier to handle than the XL13. It was a decent river runner, just not that playful.

Here I am, about to get trashed- Lower Keeney, New River Gorge 1993. It did roll pretty easy though

Pierre LaPaddelle · Post by **Pierre LaPaddelle** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:44 pm

Silent Bob wrote:It's somewhat "old school" . . .

Yes, but we're talking vintage '80s here.

A buddy had both an XL-12 and an XL-13, and I got to try both. The 13 was a fine boat -- solid, stable, and dependable for its time. It became his go-to boat for many years.

The 12 was a spawn of the devil -- absolutely no stability, primary or secondary. It even rolled over when we made a planter of it in the garden.

IMHO

Rick

OC1_PDLR · Post by **OC1_PDLR** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:38 pm

That was my first ww boat, but I didn't have it long. I never felt comfortable in the boat. Primary/secondary stability for me wasn't good. I never felt I could relax in the boat. I was probably too heavy for it - 200 -210 lbs.

yarnellboat · Post by **yarnellboat** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:31 pm

Thanks for the question & comments. Everyday I drive by an XL-12 that's growing moss in a neighbour's yard, and I was wondering whether it would make a good parent-child tandem, but I think I'll pass.

Pat.

2opnboat1 · Post by **2opnboat1** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:33 am

We did not get the mold for it, we had the plug and it is the only plug of the og designs that we killed. I did not like the design like others said it was a very unstable boat even being so wide.

KNeal · Post by **KNeal** » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:56 pm

Hi, boatape. What is your interest in the boat? It is an old design and there are many other "better" boats available, used as well as new.

Pierre LaPaddelle · Post by **Pierre LaPaddelle** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:20 am

yarnellboat wrote: . . . I was wondering whether it would make a good parent-child tandem . . .

Not to hijack the thread (much), but I've been having a lot of fun lately with a recently-converted-to-tandem Whitesell Piranha (made by Clipper). Stable, but lively. I think it would make a great parent/kid tandem. Yours to borrow and try out.

Rick

BoatApe · Post by **BoatApe** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:23 pm

Thanks for all replies. As for my interest, I have been paddling inflatable SOARs (16' and 12') for a number of years, and while they are great fun, I thought I would look for something a little more 'pure' to paddle. I also organize annual trips and thought if I could pick up a hard-shell ww canoe then I could loan the SOAR to any newbies on the trips, as it is very forgiving. Plus I still prefer canoes to kayaks. I found an XL-12 but it sounds like it's not quite what I'm looking for. Maybe I'll break down and get a new one but I'm a cheapskate at heart.....

Einar · Post by **Einar** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:57 pm

How is the Piranha's "wetness" Rick?
I had a Piranha rigged tandem and had to wear a snorkel. I seem to remember not much depth in the hull, even less depth under the hull.
My 200lbs didn't help.
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Pierre LaPaddelle · Post by **Pierre LaPaddelle** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:46 pm

Einar wrote:How is the Piranha's "wetness" Rick? . . .

Ah, yes -- a little damp in big wave trains. Depth amidships seems adequate, but the ends aren't deep enough.

Strangely enough, on a Cow Canyon run, we ran Last Drop (about 6' vertical), and came up pretty dry. We were both in the 165# range. I think that the bluntness of the bow helped it bounce.

But, I think with a lighter paddler in the bow, (eg. parent in the stern and kid in the bow) it would be a fun boat on II+ trip. Even an Adams run!

Rick

pblanc · Post by **pblanc** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:13 pm

Pierre LaPaddelle wrote:
yarnellboat wrote: . . . I was wondering whether it would make a good parent-child tandem . . .
Not to hijack the thread (much), but I've been having a lot of fun lately with a recently-converted-to-tandem Whitesell Piranha (made by Clipper). Stable, but lively. I think it would make a great parent/kid tandem. Yours to borrow and try out.

Rick

I have a Royalex Whitesell Piranha I have been considering re-outfitting as a tandem. Do you have any pictures of how you set up your boat?

Pierre LaPaddelle · Post by **Pierre LaPaddelle** » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:34 pm

pblanc wrote:[. . . Do you have any pictures of how you set up your boat?

Pix are easy. PM on the way.

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