Comparing new OC-1 solos for 200+lbs

Decked Canoes, Open Canoes, as long as they're canoes!

Moderators: adamin, kenneth, sbroam, TheKrikkitWars, Mike W., Sir Adam, KNeal, PAC

User avatar
yarnellboat
C Maven
Posts: 1318
Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:54 pm
Location: Winnipeg
Contact:

Re: Comparing new OC-1 solos for 200+lbs

Post by yarnellboat » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:25 am

Filling the gap between the Octane 91 and the smaller, slower boats is a good way to describe what I'm looking for.

Condor & 20/20 are clearly in that ballpark.

Does anyone have the specs for Agent 88? It's not on Silverbirch's website. I thought it looked smallish and Option-like, so I'm surprised it carries the weight better than a Covert 9.3. Looking forward to knowing it's size.

P.

insolence
CBoats Addict
Posts: 280
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:06 pm
Location: Augsburg (Bavaria)/ Southern Germany
Contact:

Re: Comparing new OC-1 solos for 200+lbs

Post by insolence » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:37 pm

The Excite is the "grown up" version of the extasy (Extasy weight range: 50 to 70 kg) (Excite weight range: 70 kg to 90 kg)

it's not available yet, but thats the specs for the prototype: length 2,90m, width 0,7m
Production specs may vary slightly
It's designed to be quite fast and sporty, and according to my male colleagues who have paddled it yet, it is

Material is gonna be T-Formex


sorry for the metric but I still can't handle american Units :oops:
(will I ever learn)
it's gettin hot
I MAKE THE WATER BURN
purple orange flames
blaze where I put my paddle

Wendy
Paddling Benefactor
Posts: 898
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:02 am
Location: North Carolina

Re: Comparing new OC-1 solos for 200+lbs

Post by Wendy » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:41 am

Agent 88 specs from video link: length 8'10.5 inches 31.5 " width depth at center 18 inches weight 50 pounds
FB link to excellent video about design including specs as noted above: https://www.facebook.com/silverbirchcan ... 917859628/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Last edited by Wendy on Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:57 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
yarnellboat
C Maven
Posts: 1318
Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:54 pm
Location: Winnipeg
Contact:

Re: Comparing new OC-1 solos for 200+lbs

Post by yarnellboat » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:26 am

Thanks Wendy. Ah ha, that's some width! That would explain how it can carry a larger paddler than the Option! (Not that you can judge all boats by their length and width, but if you're 230 lbs with no chance to test paddle, it's something to compare. And width is harder to see than length and rocker in pics and video.)

P.

User avatar
valhallalongboats
C Guru
Posts: 152
Joined: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:40 pm
Location: Klamath River, CA

Re: Comparing new OC-1 solos for 200+lbs

Post by valhallalongboats » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:02 am

Viper 12.
Clipper will still build you one.
There isn’t a hotter boat for 220 plus.
Canoeing isn't a sport...its an art. Unfortunately, I am not exactly Michelangelo.

BAD paddle
c
Posts: 20
Joined: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:26 am

Re: Comparing new OC-1 solos for 200+lbs

Post by BAD paddle » Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:09 pm

Hey Pat-- how's the search coming? Curious as to what end up working for your new ride!

User avatar
TonyB
CBoats Addict
Posts: 599
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:06 am
Location: Hatfield, PA

Re: Comparing new OC-1 solos for 200+lbs

Post by TonyB » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:04 am

Im a 230+ paddlers and am currently rocking a 91 for my stepup runs and when im feeling lazy. The covert 9 3 that i use for most class 3-4 runs.
I've paddled these others to. And if I were starting my quiver over today. I'd have an 88 for creeking, and 20/20 for river running or if just one, have a condor.
Proud Yankee

The.Tall.Canadian
c
Posts: 12
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2015 5:33 am

Re: Comparing new OC-1 solos for 200+lbs

Post by The.Tall.Canadian » Mon Dec 17, 2018 7:55 pm

Hey Pat.
Just couple thoughts on boats. Paddled some of them and observed others.
Firstly
Option and Agent. I would put these two in the same category. The Agent is about 8'8 and the Option is 8'7. With the Rocker profile being quite similar (Agent is a tad wider). I haven't jumped in the agent but not sure if you can really compare it to a Ocoee or Viper since those are quite a bit longer.

Covert 9.3 and Ledge are kinda similar, Found the Ledge to have a bit more primary stability but the covert glide nicely off of boofs.

Condor and Rebel are roughly in the same class. Haven't spent time in the rebel but got a decent amount of time in the condor this fall. Loved it.
Also have a side to side comparison of them.
For the most part the photos kinda show the main differences between the two. And show how the performance would differ.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Cvh8F ... hq1IPvn-ov

Mainly I just know that I really enjoyed paddling my condor this past fall. Took it to the Gull River open canoe Slalom and had a blast in it running gates. And then also had a ton of fun in it on the fall releases in the states. Beaver, Moose, Yough etc.

User avatar
pmp
CBoats Addict
Posts: 431
Joined: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:01 am
Location: quebec
Contact:

Re: Comparing new OC-1 solos for 200+lbs

Post by pmp » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:51 am

I paddled the Excite prototype briefly. It's fast, quick to turn. Not a creek boat. It's a boat that will spice up your usual river runs. It's bigger than the Extasy, but still not a big boat.
bubblestreet.ca
theracane.ca

User avatar
arhdc
CBoats Addict
Posts: 373
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:22 pm
Location: Central PA

Re: Comparing new OC-1 solos for 200+lbs

Post by arhdc » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:31 pm

I have finally added a Condor to my list of big boy boats paddled so I feel that I can make an evaluation:
I currently weigh in at around 250lbs.

Option - Great Creek boat for <220LBS Paddlers. Wet for anyone heavier.
Agent 88 - I paddled the last prototype. Quick, forgiving. Good Creeker, maybe a little wet for big boys. Would like to have one in the quiver.
Covert 9.3 - Fast, super dry, fairly responsive. Very unstable for heavy paddlers. Fur Trapper says that moving the saddle forward will solve this but I can not verify.
Covert 10.5 (solo) - Fast, nearly Octane 91 stable, seemingly fairly dry. Fairly responsive. Would like to have one in the quiver.
Octane 91 - Big, stable, dry IF you drive it hard, nimble for its size. Not fast. Has been my main boat for a couple of years and I love it but it does require work to move and keep dry.
Rebel - Unstable and wet for me at 250lbs.
Condor - The boat that I have always wanted. Fast stable, dry, nimble, nice edges. A very balanced boat that handles big guys with ease. It is longer but still maneuverable enough to creek in. I am going to buy one to replace my Octane 91.

So, to summarize, the Condor is my current choice of a big boy boat. An Octane 91 is an awesome boat and I still love mine but I feel the Condor is a little more balanced. I hope to eventually add an Agent 88 as a creeker but I found it too wet to be my main/only boat.
~Aaron~

Just being willing to try is half the battle.

Post Reply