Anyone has tried the Robson Homes. How it perform vs a prelude?
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i guess no one has ever paddled one...
Here in Germany you don´t find any informations, pictures or articles about this boat. Maybe Robson has problems with the Amerlight-material...
Some shops "sell" it already - but i think no one has ever seen it live
Last year a shop-owner told me he had test-paddled one... Maybe that was the only existing...
But if someone has better informations- I would be happy about them too.
Greetings Frank (waiting for a prelude...)
Here in Germany you don´t find any informations, pictures or articles about this boat. Maybe Robson has problems with the Amerlight-material...
Some shops "sell" it already - but i think no one has ever seen it live
Last year a shop-owner told me he had test-paddled one... Maybe that was the only existing...But if someone has better informations- I would be happy about them too.
Greetings Frank (waiting for a prelude...)
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somebody (Wendy?) posted on this forum that it wasn't supposed to be out until June...
I sure want to take one for a spin. I couldn't be more fed up with Royalex, but I'm not quite ready to skirt up full time yet.
K
I sure want to take one for a spin. I couldn't be more fed up with Royalex, but I'm not quite ready to skirt up full time yet.
K
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Would be awesome to have a small Ocoee in that material, no?
Cheers, Jan
Cheers, Jan
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Homes in production now
Robert from Robson told me in an email received today that the boat is in production and will be shipped to US with next big container.
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Well, I saw the price on one German website when I looked around last night and they were asking 2100€...which translates to one heionously pricey boat. For comparison the Taureau works out to about 1400€ + 300€ for outfitting based on one quote I got over here.
BTW - there is a little info on the boat on http://www.robsonpaddle.de/kanadier.htm The online shop I found with price info is: http://www.kanuladen.info/shop/index.php?cPath=31_43_48
Cheers
Matt
BTW - there is a little info on the boat on http://www.robsonpaddle.de/kanadier.htm The online shop I found with price info is: http://www.kanuladen.info/shop/index.php?cPath=31_43_48
Cheers
Matt
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Hmmm....new country, new rivers...-
Still not enough c-boaters....
Hmmm....new country, new rivers...-
Still not enough c-boaters....
first test
heres a first test - in german 
and some pictures:
http://kanu-verein.de/homepage/privat/k ... bson_homes
Maybe someone whos english is better than mine will translate it for you.
and some pictures:
http://kanu-verein.de/homepage/privat/k ... bson_homes
Maybe someone whos english is better than mine will translate it for you.
imagine
i used freetranslation.com , & for what it's worth, here's a translation:
trip report: homes of the Robson homes is actual a part extremely
lecherous.
The first, what was noticeable me today on nem test boat-day, (Hohenlimburg-Slalom stretch, sport Schröer makes that each year once there) : the thing is man easy.
My comparison boat is the Spanish-Fly, clearly more shortly however there out of thick PE a good piece heavier. Impressing.
I was not able to make a full test, lied around got there the boat in the Werksfitting (seems one of the Protos been to its) and I my legs not far enough in the Bulkhead to press around the rear correctly into the saddle. Would mean feet raced also not at that came ran: if the legs stick only half inside, is it to the rear hold too long.
On the water, there was first of all a clear impression: the thing accelerates easily was able to find quickly, the Sweetspot I and then the boat got also an orderly speed and produces at the same time so well like no wave. Straight line outflow is full ok (to be sure am I the Fly lived and that has nen straight line outflow as well as a Waschfass).
Do not tilt ok, I went with the Süllrand at the water, was in addition I based on the Fittings (or my thick legs) not stably enough and sat also too highly. I had not however the impression that it would be there biestig.
Turn only with edges - what astonishes me something, there it sideways totally easily traversiert and that already with minimal tilting.
With my well 110 kg battle weights the boat lay nevertheless leichtfüssig in the water - I had the impression that it could bring yet well 30 kg of baggage with me, without that the handling characteristics (once of the inertia seen) strongly would suffer. In addition must become natural at the Fitting yet a few things optimized (must it however in each boat) so that too much water does not remain inside.
A short Trip through the entrance thresholds in Hohenlimburg showed that the homes a good displacement distribution has. It did not dance injected very easily over the waves and it even.
Then in the current, and/or there where it Verschneidungslinien gives, became the homes all at once awake: stern in the breath of a current, weight easily to the rear, paddle shortly ahead into the Kehrwasser and the thing turns permits more quickly than the police. Here play together length, displacement, weight and boat form really lecherous. In comparison with the Fly, that with me was very deeply lies that already an A-Ha experience.
Moreover: a real Surfmaschine seems the homes to be. Little waves dress the thing magic and make really joke therewith.
Witty: although the skirts rather more moderate appears, the bow removes astonishingly easily.
Here, the Fitting makes yet bulky must be cuten a solid impression, the Bulkhead by the material and has for that into each direction (knee, Steissstütze, height) bulky place. The foot lawns are out of plastic and very strongly are rounded off - there hold the paddle shoes probably somewhat more long than in the angular Alurasten of Pyranha.
The air sacks have the Pusteschläuche well known by the kayak here (in contrast to the thick, augesetzten valves in Pyranha). Only disadvantage of the Dinger is that they look a little like Kathederschläuche; -)
The hull saw well verkratzt out of - therefore assume I that it is a Proto in the longer use. To be sure no single scratch was elementary or with the finger tip perceptible. With the thumb nail, one can perceive the scratches, but that are only breath delicate. Amerlite seems really what to hold. Long-term-experiences, of because of UV-radiation and warmly coldly has there however yet no one.
No idea how the additional extension forms itself and whether glues at Amerlite (probably, I mine read to have, there would be PE with inside) rather more not hold, and/or whether one can boring, without that walls tears emerge.
trip report: homes of the Robson homes is actual a part extremely
lecherous.
The first, what was noticeable me today on nem test boat-day, (Hohenlimburg-Slalom stretch, sport Schröer makes that each year once there) : the thing is man easy.
My comparison boat is the Spanish-Fly, clearly more shortly however there out of thick PE a good piece heavier. Impressing.
I was not able to make a full test, lied around got there the boat in the Werksfitting (seems one of the Protos been to its) and I my legs not far enough in the Bulkhead to press around the rear correctly into the saddle. Would mean feet raced also not at that came ran: if the legs stick only half inside, is it to the rear hold too long.
On the water, there was first of all a clear impression: the thing accelerates easily was able to find quickly, the Sweetspot I and then the boat got also an orderly speed and produces at the same time so well like no wave. Straight line outflow is full ok (to be sure am I the Fly lived and that has nen straight line outflow as well as a Waschfass).
Do not tilt ok, I went with the Süllrand at the water, was in addition I based on the Fittings (or my thick legs) not stably enough and sat also too highly. I had not however the impression that it would be there biestig.
Turn only with edges - what astonishes me something, there it sideways totally easily traversiert and that already with minimal tilting.
With my well 110 kg battle weights the boat lay nevertheless leichtfüssig in the water - I had the impression that it could bring yet well 30 kg of baggage with me, without that the handling characteristics (once of the inertia seen) strongly would suffer. In addition must become natural at the Fitting yet a few things optimized (must it however in each boat) so that too much water does not remain inside.
A short Trip through the entrance thresholds in Hohenlimburg showed that the homes a good displacement distribution has. It did not dance injected very easily over the waves and it even.
Then in the current, and/or there where it Verschneidungslinien gives, became the homes all at once awake: stern in the breath of a current, weight easily to the rear, paddle shortly ahead into the Kehrwasser and the thing turns permits more quickly than the police. Here play together length, displacement, weight and boat form really lecherous. In comparison with the Fly, that with me was very deeply lies that already an A-Ha experience.
Moreover: a real Surfmaschine seems the homes to be. Little waves dress the thing magic and make really joke therewith.
Witty: although the skirts rather more moderate appears, the bow removes astonishingly easily.
Here, the Fitting makes yet bulky must be cuten a solid impression, the Bulkhead by the material and has for that into each direction (knee, Steissstütze, height) bulky place. The foot lawns are out of plastic and very strongly are rounded off - there hold the paddle shoes probably somewhat more long than in the angular Alurasten of Pyranha.
The air sacks have the Pusteschläuche well known by the kayak here (in contrast to the thick, augesetzten valves in Pyranha). Only disadvantage of the Dinger is that they look a little like Kathederschläuche; -)
The hull saw well verkratzt out of - therefore assume I that it is a Proto in the longer use. To be sure no single scratch was elementary or with the finger tip perceptible. With the thumb nail, one can perceive the scratches, but that are only breath delicate. Amerlite seems really what to hold. Long-term-experiences, of because of UV-radiation and warmly coldly has there however yet no one.
No idea how the additional extension forms itself and whether glues at Amerlite (probably, I mine read to have, there would be PE with inside) rather more not hold, and/or whether one can boring, without that walls tears emerge.
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Well, as always the automatic translations are still pretty much garbage 
...
Well, here is my version of the translation, which is hopefully a bit better:
The Robson Homes is indeed a very hot piece.
The first thing I noticed today at the boat test day (slalom site at Hohenlimburg): Man, is this thing light.
My conparison is a Spanish Fly, significantly shorter but since made from thick PE a fair bit heavier. Impressive.
I could not really test it all out, as the boat came with the factory outfitting (it seemed to have been one of the Protos) and I could not get my legs deep enough into the bulkhead to sit properly in the saddle. I was also not able to put my feet onto the footpegs. This was also because I could not get my legs deep enough into the bulkhead.
The first significant imperssion on the water: This thing accelerates quickly, I could find the sweetspot very easily and the boat reached a fair top speed with causing barely a wake. Tracking is really o.k (however I am used to the Spanish Fly and it tracks about as well as a barrel).
The edges are o.k. ( I did not lean it all the way down to the gunnels, as I did to the ill fit in the outfitting not have the necessary stability and was positioned too high up in the boat. But I did not get the impresssion as if the boat would be too edgy.
It turns only when edging it, which does surprise me, since it is easy to travetrse sideways with minimal edging (?? not sure what exacly the autor tries to say here).
At my weight of 110 kg (~240 lbs), the boat was still fleet-footed in the water - I had the impression that I could take 30 kg (~65 lbs) of gear with me without compromising handling (except for inertia) too much.The outfitting however would have to be optimized for this.
A short run down the enntrance wave train in Hohenlimburg showed that the Homes has a good displacement distribution. It danced very easily over the waves and did not even splash.
Once in current, ie. on eddylines, the Homes suddenly became alive: The stern in a hint of current, a slight weight transfer to the back and a quick bow stroke into the eddy and the thing turns quicker than the police permits.
This is where the combination of length, displacement, weight and hull shape work together really well. Compared to the Fly, which is very low in the water, this was a real eye opener.
The Homes seems also to be a real surf machine. Small waves seem to magically attract itand are realy fun in it.
Fun: Although there is only a moderate amount of rockerthe bow seems to lift surprisingly easy.
As far as as the mater4ial is concerned the fitting seems to be very solid, the bulkhead however has to be cut out further and there is lots of material there in any direction to do this.
The footpegs are plastic and very rounded - paddling boots will probably last longer than on the hard edged aluminum footpegs used on the Pyranha.
The air bags have the same valves and tubes as do kayak air bags( contrary to the big inset valves on the Pyranha). The only drawback of them is that they look a little like catheter tubes
The hulllooked well scratched - I therefore think that this was a proto that saw lots of use. Hovever none of the scratches was substantial or could be felt with the finger tips. The are only noticable with the finger nails and only on the surface.
Armerlite really seems to be very solid. There is however no long therm experience concerning UV and hot-cold exposure damage.
I have no idea however on how to attach outfitting and if there are any glues around that bond to Armerlite (probably not, since I think I read somewhere that it contains PE), or if it can be drilled without the risk of propagating cracks.
...Well, here is my version of the translation, which is hopefully a bit better:
The Robson Homes is indeed a very hot piece.
The first thing I noticed today at the boat test day (slalom site at Hohenlimburg): Man, is this thing light.
My conparison is a Spanish Fly, significantly shorter but since made from thick PE a fair bit heavier. Impressive.
I could not really test it all out, as the boat came with the factory outfitting (it seemed to have been one of the Protos) and I could not get my legs deep enough into the bulkhead to sit properly in the saddle. I was also not able to put my feet onto the footpegs. This was also because I could not get my legs deep enough into the bulkhead.
The first significant imperssion on the water: This thing accelerates quickly, I could find the sweetspot very easily and the boat reached a fair top speed with causing barely a wake. Tracking is really o.k (however I am used to the Spanish Fly and it tracks about as well as a barrel).
The edges are o.k. ( I did not lean it all the way down to the gunnels, as I did to the ill fit in the outfitting not have the necessary stability and was positioned too high up in the boat. But I did not get the impresssion as if the boat would be too edgy.
It turns only when edging it, which does surprise me, since it is easy to travetrse sideways with minimal edging (?? not sure what exacly the autor tries to say here).
At my weight of 110 kg (~240 lbs), the boat was still fleet-footed in the water - I had the impression that I could take 30 kg (~65 lbs) of gear with me without compromising handling (except for inertia) too much.The outfitting however would have to be optimized for this.
A short run down the enntrance wave train in Hohenlimburg showed that the Homes has a good displacement distribution. It danced very easily over the waves and did not even splash.
Once in current, ie. on eddylines, the Homes suddenly became alive: The stern in a hint of current, a slight weight transfer to the back and a quick bow stroke into the eddy and the thing turns quicker than the police permits.
This is where the combination of length, displacement, weight and hull shape work together really well. Compared to the Fly, which is very low in the water, this was a real eye opener.
The Homes seems also to be a real surf machine. Small waves seem to magically attract itand are realy fun in it.
Fun: Although there is only a moderate amount of rockerthe bow seems to lift surprisingly easy.
As far as as the mater4ial is concerned the fitting seems to be very solid, the bulkhead however has to be cut out further and there is lots of material there in any direction to do this.
The footpegs are plastic and very rounded - paddling boots will probably last longer than on the hard edged aluminum footpegs used on the Pyranha.
The air bags have the same valves and tubes as do kayak air bags( contrary to the big inset valves on the Pyranha). The only drawback of them is that they look a little like catheter tubes
The hulllooked well scratched - I therefore think that this was a proto that saw lots of use. Hovever none of the scratches was substantial or could be felt with the finger tips. The are only noticable with the finger nails and only on the surface.
Armerlite really seems to be very solid. There is however no long therm experience concerning UV and hot-cold exposure damage.
I have no idea however on how to attach outfitting and if there are any glues around that bond to Armerlite (probably not, since I think I read somewhere that it contains PE), or if it can be drilled without the risk of propagating cracks.
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Wow, Martin, you are fast.
Anyways, Kai just send me the review and I put a translated version with pics on
http://www.open-canoe.de/open
Cheers, Jan
Anyways, Kai just send me the review and I put a translated version with pics on
http://www.open-canoe.de/open
Cheers, Jan
Is there something like an expert kayaker?
http://www.bc-ww.com
http://www.bc-ww.com
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