don't laugh too hard at this one ... but a C2 Dynamic Duo?

[granola1861]

Jackson Dynamic Duo converted to C2. Has it been done, thought about, laughed at? Just curious and thought why the heck not.

[granola1861]

ok may have just answered my own question by finding this.

http://www.cboats.net/cforum/viewtopic. ... de4205359d

But has anyone tried?

[hankrankin]

Dude a dynamic duo C2 would be awesome! it's actually something ive discussed with another friend of mine. my feeling is if you can butt boat it you can C1/2 it. may be a learning curve, but where else are you gonna find a c2 like you would a dynamic duo outfitted c2. if you had a partner wiling to get down, you could run some c2 stout in that. i dont know about weight limits for the boat, but it seems to me that two 150-160 lb cboaters could rip in that boat. EJ are you listening "TWO YOUNG 150-160ish lb CBOATERS COULD RIP IN THAT THING"

[TheKrikkitWars]

I'd use a Topo-Duo if I was going to do that, but with both K2 whitewater boats, the problem is that the paddlers are spaced too far apart for any of the advantages of c-boating (other than higher viewpoint) to carry through into a C2.

[RapidMediaTVGuy]

One seat left for a kayaker and one seat outfitted as a C1? Maybe would be a neat way to introduce kayakers to C1?

Dan Caldwell
Rapid Media TV Guy

[Yukon]

I very tempted to order one has anyone else yet tried it?

[Smurfwarrior]

The Eskimo Topoduo would be cool.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxsd4gH7hgo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; it is MADE BETTER than that Jackson crap

[bushpaddler]

Too long, too far apart, too less rocker, maybe not wide enough. Same for topo and dynamic duo

[bambam]

Has it been thought about?

Yes, at least by me. I have long thought it would be cool to have a tandem thingamabob where the stern paddler was kneeling (and thus able to see better), while the bow paddler was seated with a twin bladed paddle for added horsepower. One big advantage to this setup over that of a K-2 is that you wouldn't have to build in extra boat length to accommodate the stern paddlers legs.

This advantage would be lost in converting a Dynamic Duo into a C-2. (Or, um, a C-1 / K-1?) The alternative would be to build a new boat from scratch. (Fund my retirement and I'll quit working to give it a shot)

With that said, I'll note that I have done some instruction of people with disabilities in a Dynamic Duo. Yes, it's a big boat. Yes, it's also a full-on whitewater boat and is an excellent teaching platform for many reasons.

Short answer, yes, I think it would make for a fun C-2 while being a bit bulky.

Oh, and haha, by the way, almost impossible to shoulder it solo, hadn't thought of that prior to trying.

Ken

[icyone]

I can think of lots of negatives to a bow-paddler using a double blade. For one thing, you do not have the reach and pull for steering strokes & turns. For another, half the time you are stroking on the stern's onside, and half the time on the opposite side; can't see an advantage to that. The whole stroke-rate synch is going to be strange. Rolling -- that's a head-scratch -- not even going to go there. Years ago there was a theory that a kayaker could easily slip into paddling bow because it was "a lot like kayaking", but that was when people still thought that cross-bow strokes were awkward & pointlessly inefficient, etc, blah, blah. As for river-running, in rapids the bow controls where you are going to go, and the stern sees to it that the stern stays behind the bow & gets there. Again, a sitter in the bow doesn't make sense -- can't see, less leverage. If it's just to "show her/him the river" then the stern will be paddling like it's a big C-1 anyway. Except for a one-shot demo or a sight-seeing tour, you aren't accomplishing much. The one exception of course would be working with a handicapped partner (as Bambam has done), where the whole point is figuring things out that work with & for that individual.

Running solid 4-5 rivers with a solid partner is great, but given the disadvantages I don't think many (any?) would see value in a sit-down double blade bow. If you want to rip it up, I can't see any plusses, and I have ripped plenty in a slalom C-2. Tearing up in a C-2 can be absolutely the greatest rush on the river, but IMHO you need a C-2 designed as a C-2, so you can paddle it like a C-2.

(Brief pause for cool memory: I'm no fan of "just jumping in a boat together", but an exception I did once make back when EJ was still a whipper-snapper and he showed up on the river when Rocky was perfect and I happened to be surfing & popping C-2 enders with my racing partner -- and eventually for kicks we did swap around, so yes, I can claim to have ripped it up with EJ once back in the day -- and yeah, we did rip. Oh yeah, oh youth!!)