Marko,
Thanks for the preview. It does look a little like a Finkenmeister. I am hopeful the boat will have improved primary stability and will enable a nice wide and deep knee stance inside the boat. I am enjoying my Finkenmeister right now, but if the Fatboy gets anything close to the Wheelboy reviews, I will be scraping together some bucks to get one, you can be sure . Very exciting.
P.S. I will be a Wheelboy owner soon.
Bruce
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Creeking and hull thickness
The Stiffness and weight ratio of plastic is very difficult issue.
stiff plastic means cracking more easy....less stiff material will mean few extra KG's to make up lost stiffness. Creeking is an impact sport and I'D RATHER HAVE BOAT THAT DOES NOT CRACK. It will be heavy to carry anyway
We will try to build our kayaks not to crack (and be repairable if damaged) and on creekboats we will use same plastic as we use for current wheelboys. There is 2 advantages on that plastic.
1. Slide over rocks. That plastic fells really greesy and slides really well
2. Impact resistance. It has really good impact resistance and the nature of damage that plastic will most likely have a is a hole instead of crack. Holes are repairable.
I think we try some good 8-9 mm of plastic in the bottom and some 13 mm at the ends ... 5-6 mm around rim ... pretty difficult to say untill we try the plastic distribution with the real prod.mold
To avoid swamping and add saafety we can use douple thickness walls. using a creeker airbags in bow and stern will be an great idea.
stiff plastic means cracking more easy....less stiff material will mean few extra KG's to make up lost stiffness. Creeking is an impact sport and I'D RATHER HAVE BOAT THAT DOES NOT CRACK. It will be heavy to carry anyway
We will try to build our kayaks not to crack (and be repairable if damaged) and on creekboats we will use same plastic as we use for current wheelboys. There is 2 advantages on that plastic.
1. Slide over rocks. That plastic fells really greesy and slides really well
2. Impact resistance. It has really good impact resistance and the nature of damage that plastic will most likely have a is a hole instead of crack. Holes are repairable.
I think we try some good 8-9 mm of plastic in the bottom and some 13 mm at the ends ... 5-6 mm around rim ... pretty difficult to say untill we try the plastic distribution with the real prod.mold
To avoid swamping and add saafety we can use douple thickness walls. using a creeker airbags in bow and stern will be an great idea.
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Marko,
Don't mess with an experimental plastic. That is a risk a larger company may need to take. Stay with a proven plastic and work on the superior C1 design. You don't need your boats cracking. That would be a disaster to your business. I'm sure you already realize this . I just wanted to emphasize the point.
Bruce
Don't mess with an experimental plastic. That is a risk a larger company may need to take. Stay with a proven plastic and work on the superior C1 design. You don't need your boats cracking. That would be a disaster to your business. I'm sure you already realize this . I just wanted to emphasize the point.
Bruce
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HI
i don't experiment in creeking boats. We have a 'new' plastic for k-1 kayaks but for c-1 boats I think we will use good proven US made plastics as we do now. Our new one is US made too and pretty well proven too. we just added the shine and slippery feel as for whellboy.
BTW. last weekend while working as speaker in boatercross I realised that there is 2 boats compined that have similar ideas as Fatboy. First mix WS diesel with good old Riot BIG gun and then make it a c-1 one ... add some drakkar spice ... result is pretty much like fatboy.
Playing safe,
MArko
www.drakkarkayaks.com
i don't experiment in creeking boats. We have a 'new' plastic for k-1 kayaks but for c-1 boats I think we will use good proven US made plastics as we do now. Our new one is US made too and pretty well proven too. we just added the shine and slippery feel as for whellboy.
BTW. last weekend while working as speaker in boatercross I realised that there is 2 boats compined that have similar ideas as Fatboy. First mix WS diesel with good old Riot BIG gun and then make it a c-1 one ... add some drakkar spice ... result is pretty much like fatboy.
Playing safe,
MArko
www.drakkarkayaks.com