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Grumpy I don't care what I look like, I am just here for the adrinlin high

i paddle(d) both open and decked and found decked to be much harder than open.
but that was then.
I have adjusted (and found better boats) and now I can't imagine paddling an open boat.
it's just too much work. too many lame, manky sneak lines, and omg, the frustration of getting swamped by 2'waves in class one wave trains
to each his own. props to all you open boaters... but honestly, paddling the boat is not a big deal. it's your stubbornness and determination that impresses me. definately a level above c1, on that level

If you are gettin swamped by 2' waves in a class one wave train you need to be in a Kayak

Larry Horne wrote: the frustration of getting swamped by 2'waves in class one wave trains

running dry is part of the challenge! i remember getting to the bottom of pure screaming hades on the lg and seeing that pete martin had maybe an inch of water in his maxim. it can be done.

and louie- i'm not talkin about looking good so much as doing it well. some guys crash & brace their way on down, and some guys tear it up! but when you do it well in an open boat, no kayak can compete with that.

if you've never been frustrated by in an insignificant wave filling your boat ...wow! i really am impressed.

running big drops and staying dry is really great and all, but seven years of working to stay dry in every, little, wave train got old for me. Now I have fun hitting the big crashing waves down the middle. That's just me.

I think yes, most open boat vids look rough, most probably because:

- It is hard to do (we all know that one)
- There aren't that many open boater around VS yakers
- They all (we all) like to push limits all the time and solely looks on top of their game.

Now that's just a tendency and you can still find a lot of cool open boat vids out there, where dooley and others looks great and smooth running the large steaming pile of dog doo. Seen this one and that other so many times... just awesome.

Now why was that poll a farce again? I just love silly stuff...

I love my big open boats for throwing the kids and the gears in for multi-days trips and enjoy the extra challenge inherent to it.

But for playboating gimme a kilt and i'm in.

yeah, i know what you mean. and when i'm in my c1 i do feel as though i have more precise control.

just watched the video and gotta say it doesn't look rough to me at all.
dooley's got a fantastic aggressive paddling style. tearin it up.

What do you paddle Larry?

large burn and a wheelboy.
paddled viper 11 & 12 open boats

how'd you find the burn? i have a hercules and a fink.

Well I am sure it nice to know if you blow your line it will be OK because your Kilt will keep the water out. However if you can do Lost Paddle from to to bottom without havin to dump your boat that is boat control, good use of body English and the ability to read water. One of the first things the butt boater learn is that when they do blow their lines and they crash into a hole or wave they wanted to miss, all they have to do is look confident and act like they ment to do that.

Chad and I were talkin last night at dinner and he said "well Dooley says there is a lot of stuff he won't run I will because of the boat fillin up with water" however you put someone Dooley size in a full bagged and foamed out spanish fly and heck how much water can you fill it in with 20 30 gallons that is just another 160 to 240 extra pounds. Keep in mind also that is Louie's C1'ers son talkin I ain't never heard Dooley say that....he did elected not to put on on the Natahalla cascades at like 14oo cfs, but the buttboater swimin the whole thing while we watched might have had sumthin to do with that.

can't say i blame him. thats a lot of water in that ditch.

threads like this make open boaters look dumb I wish everybody would put a little thought into there post so we all dont look like asss

oh brother.