Did the L'Edge kill the Detonator?
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It already has leveled out
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I d agree. I d say the L'edge fever leveled out, was replaced with Blackfly fever... and now that seems to be leveling out. Everyone loves new stuff.
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Re: Did the L'Edge kill the Detonator?
DougB wrote:If there was a thread asking which canoe is best at slicing bread the answer would likely come back as "the L'edge"
From a strictly realistic standpoint, I would have to say some kind of c-squirt.
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Or a Viper 12, cuz it loves to carve...TNbound wrote:DougB wrote:If there was a thread asking which canoe is best at slicing bread the answer would likely come back as "the L'edge"
From a strictly realistic standpoint, I would have to say some kind of c-squirt.
ba-dun...chhh!
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Re: Did the L'Edge kill the Detonator?
Agree.
Anybody else notice all the ALF videos?
And they're all made out of ticky tacky..... there's a green one and a yellow one and a red one and a red one and a red one and a red one and a red one, and they all look just the same a red one and they all look just the same......
(apologies to Pete Seeger)
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Anybody else notice all the ALF videos?
And they're all made out of ticky tacky..... there's a green one and a yellow one and a red one and a red one and a red one and a red one and a red one, and they all look just the same a red one and they all look just the same......
(apologies to Pete Seeger)
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I don't think "plastic-mania" is going to end anytime soon.
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Re: Did the L'Edge kill the Detonator?
... at least until folks start getting back in to lighter composites (for non-creeking).
Once you've paddled a 20 or 30 lbs boat that is nice and stiff it is hard to go back to lugging around a 50 or 60 lbs beast... and lighter boats are much more lively on the water
Once you've paddled a 20 or 30 lbs boat that is nice and stiff it is hard to go back to lugging around a 50 or 60 lbs beast... and lighter boats are much more lively on the water
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Yes, but is there anything besides creeking?Sir Adam wrote:... at least until folks start getting back in to lighter composites (for non-creeking).
Once you've paddled a 20 or 30 lbs boat that is nice and stiff it is hard to go back to lugging around a 50 or 60 lbs beast... and lighter boats are much more lively on the water
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Creaking?
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Re: Did the L'Edge kill the Detonator?
If you don't live in the south, yes. Whether you want to paddle things other than creeks in an open boat is another debate.Todhunter wrote:Yes, but is there anything besides creeking?Sir Adam wrote:... at least until folks start getting back in to lighter composites (for non-creeking).
Once you've paddled a 20 or 30 lbs boat that is nice and stiff it is hard to go back to lugging around a 50 or 60 lbs beast... and lighter boats are much more lively on the water
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Re: Did the L'Edge kill the Detonator?
I loved a Detonator to death several years ago. The chines ragged out so much that I gave up after patching them 7 times. For years, I tried several other boats but they just never performed like the Detonator. I recently bought a new one and couldn't be happier.
The biggest problem with the Detonator is that the angled chines flex where the planes meet, where-as rounded canoe hulls distribute the flexing over a broader area. With this dynamic, the hull fails prematurely on either side of the pedestal along the edges of the lower chines. I've seen it on many used Detonators over the years.
In my opinion, Esquif has really dropped the ball by not insisting that the Royalex manufacturer beef up the lay-up along those structurally weak edges.
Love the boat, but hate this manufacturer's oversight.
The biggest problem with the Detonator is that the angled chines flex where the planes meet, where-as rounded canoe hulls distribute the flexing over a broader area. With this dynamic, the hull fails prematurely on either side of the pedestal along the edges of the lower chines. I've seen it on many used Detonators over the years.
In my opinion, Esquif has really dropped the ball by not insisting that the Royalex manufacturer beef up the lay-up along those structurally weak edges.
Love the boat, but hate this manufacturer's oversight.
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I wonder if you couldn't preemptively beef it up with some ABS or glass to prevent the flex?
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Cjim but remember all the canoe copanies buy there royalex from the same people, the only one in the world who make it. They are not real happy to change anything and they would be just as happy to never sale royalex. So the point is it is hard to get Spartech to help you in anyway what so ever.
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RX comes in a sheet form... they don't offer thicker materials in 'part' of the sheet... the entire sheet is one thickness. As Richard stated all the Royalex that every manufacturer uses comes from one source. It doesn't matter if it's a touring boat or a ww-boat.CJimPaddle wrote:... insisting that the Royalex manufacturer beef up the lay-up along those structurally weak edges.
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