good playboat / river runner c1?
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 7:08 pm
good playboat / river runner c1?
by Alan Alan
I just started paddling c1 seriously this spring. I have been paddling a redline with bulkhead lap belt outfitting. I have put in a ton of time on the water so far this year as I live very close to a spring run. My roll is now very solid, I can surf alright and carve a little bit. I can stern squirt and pivot turn on command, although my bow never really gets more than a foot and a half out of the water.
I am looking to move into a smaller, lower volume boat later this year (after I save up the money). I would like to get something that I can throw around and flatwater cartwheel in. I also need to be able to get down some class III and maybe IV stuff. I will keep the redline around for my river runner though.
Anywayz, what kind of boats would be good? I am about 150 lbs, and 5' 10". I have noticed alot of xxx's and glides for sale cheap - do they work alright as c1? what about ego's or outlaws?
thanks,
Alan
Posted on Jul 16, 2002, 6:15 PM
For some REAL fun...
by Sir Adam
try an Acrobat C1 squirt boat standard medium cut for your weight...you should be able to cartwheel, run rivers, bow and stern squirt, etc..., plus it's glass:) A few images at CBoats.net as usual... http://www.cboats.net/acrobat.html
I think of my Acrobat as my all-around C1 for most rivers. For more interesting water where I want to cruise and surf (and stern squirt) rather than cartwheel, bow and stern squirt (not to mention some interesting river running (going THROUGH rather than OVER waves sometimes) I have a Viper:) .
C-ya IN the Rivah!
Sir Adam
Posted on Jul 16, 2002, 7:26 PM
The voice of the plastic people...
by Scott B.
Glass is good - even great, but some of us like plastic, too - a XXX could be good at your weight, for bigger paddlers it turns into a squirt boat. You might also consider a Forplay, Amp/Shock, or one of the Piranha boats.
If you are interested in glass, there is an Acrobat on the BoaterTalk Gear Swap page...
Scott
Posted on Jul 17, 2002, 4:40 AM
good playboats...including 2cents worth on Liquid logic (long)
by James
Hmmm. Where to begin? No glass for me, plastic and freestyle all the way (though I'd love to try out those squirt boats)
-XXX: narrow, so limited primary stability, tough as a river runner as the dam thing doesn't stay upright all the time. super fun flatwater cartwheeling, fast on a wave when you can get on and keep the ends free. I think the newer, shorter boats are more fun, as you don't perl all the time.
-forplay: kick butt river running playboat, again long, so some playspots are hard to handle compared with newer shorter boats. At 150-155 lbs a little hard to throw around I imagine (I'm 180lbs).
-booster: likely good intermediate boat if you can fit your legs, I haven't tried it
-LL session: super fun flatwater, super loose, slow hull surfing, not the greatest primary stability, so river running requires skill, relatively forgiving in a hole (similar thoughts for the Pop and Skip, though I've only paddled those a little, better stability for me in the Pop, much less stability in the Skip, both are not noticably slower than the session for me)
-ego, ultrafuge: I loved the ultrafuge, much more fun than the forplay at my weight as a playboat, ego is super loose and pretty stable.
-tekno: this is what I'm paddling. quite fast for a short boat, carves like crazy on a wave, a little tough to manage in a hole due to sharp edges, cartwheels okay, super fun. not too difficult downriver, slow.
-also check out pryanha's new boats, the sub 7 and sub 6, as kayaking friends love them.
-keep in mind anything real good as a kayak could likely work well as C1, the opposite is also true, which is why few people paddle the glide, slice etc as C1!
Posted on Jul 17, 2002, 6:25 AM
thanks (nm)
by Alan
nm
Posted on Jul 20, 2002, 12:09 PM
Forplay c1
by Dennis Dennis
The fp is a fine river runner for me at about 170, and it makes a fair playboat as well. At 150 you might find the x a very good river runner, but short on the playboat end (depends on the water, for big water it would be fine fine fine).
Posted on Jul 22, 2002, 11:59 AM
by Alan Alan
I just started paddling c1 seriously this spring. I have been paddling a redline with bulkhead lap belt outfitting. I have put in a ton of time on the water so far this year as I live very close to a spring run. My roll is now very solid, I can surf alright and carve a little bit. I can stern squirt and pivot turn on command, although my bow never really gets more than a foot and a half out of the water.
I am looking to move into a smaller, lower volume boat later this year (after I save up the money). I would like to get something that I can throw around and flatwater cartwheel in. I also need to be able to get down some class III and maybe IV stuff. I will keep the redline around for my river runner though.
Anywayz, what kind of boats would be good? I am about 150 lbs, and 5' 10". I have noticed alot of xxx's and glides for sale cheap - do they work alright as c1? what about ego's or outlaws?
thanks,
Alan
Posted on Jul 16, 2002, 6:15 PM
For some REAL fun...
by Sir Adam
try an Acrobat C1 squirt boat standard medium cut for your weight...you should be able to cartwheel, run rivers, bow and stern squirt, etc..., plus it's glass:) A few images at CBoats.net as usual... http://www.cboats.net/acrobat.html
I think of my Acrobat as my all-around C1 for most rivers. For more interesting water where I want to cruise and surf (and stern squirt) rather than cartwheel, bow and stern squirt (not to mention some interesting river running (going THROUGH rather than OVER waves sometimes) I have a Viper:) .
C-ya IN the Rivah!
Sir Adam
Posted on Jul 16, 2002, 7:26 PM
The voice of the plastic people...
by Scott B.
Glass is good - even great, but some of us like plastic, too - a XXX could be good at your weight, for bigger paddlers it turns into a squirt boat. You might also consider a Forplay, Amp/Shock, or one of the Piranha boats.
If you are interested in glass, there is an Acrobat on the BoaterTalk Gear Swap page...
Scott
Posted on Jul 17, 2002, 4:40 AM
good playboats...including 2cents worth on Liquid logic (long)
by James
Hmmm. Where to begin? No glass for me, plastic and freestyle all the way (though I'd love to try out those squirt boats)
-XXX: narrow, so limited primary stability, tough as a river runner as the dam thing doesn't stay upright all the time. super fun flatwater cartwheeling, fast on a wave when you can get on and keep the ends free. I think the newer, shorter boats are more fun, as you don't perl all the time.
-forplay: kick butt river running playboat, again long, so some playspots are hard to handle compared with newer shorter boats. At 150-155 lbs a little hard to throw around I imagine (I'm 180lbs).
-booster: likely good intermediate boat if you can fit your legs, I haven't tried it
-LL session: super fun flatwater, super loose, slow hull surfing, not the greatest primary stability, so river running requires skill, relatively forgiving in a hole (similar thoughts for the Pop and Skip, though I've only paddled those a little, better stability for me in the Pop, much less stability in the Skip, both are not noticably slower than the session for me)
-ego, ultrafuge: I loved the ultrafuge, much more fun than the forplay at my weight as a playboat, ego is super loose and pretty stable.
-tekno: this is what I'm paddling. quite fast for a short boat, carves like crazy on a wave, a little tough to manage in a hole due to sharp edges, cartwheels okay, super fun. not too difficult downriver, slow.
-also check out pryanha's new boats, the sub 7 and sub 6, as kayaking friends love them.
-keep in mind anything real good as a kayak could likely work well as C1, the opposite is also true, which is why few people paddle the glide, slice etc as C1!
Posted on Jul 17, 2002, 6:25 AM
thanks (nm)
by Alan
nm
Posted on Jul 20, 2002, 12:09 PM
Forplay c1
by Dennis Dennis
The fp is a fine river runner for me at about 170, and it makes a fair playboat as well. At 150 you might find the x a very good river runner, but short on the playboat end (depends on the water, for big water it would be fine fine fine).
Posted on Jul 22, 2002, 11:59 AM