Dagger CFS - C1
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 7:25 pm
Dagger CFS - C1
by Ron
Anyone paddling a C1 CFS, Y or Blunt. I'm interested in how you rate the performance.
Posted on Nov 21, 2002, 5:44 PM
creekboats
by James
I paddle a Y, check back a couple of pages and you'll find my thoughts on it. The CFS is a dam large creekboat, the only guy I know who paddles one (as a kayak though) is a big boy and really has to muscle it around. I have heard good things about the blunt, my 2 cents worth would say CFS if you are a BBBBBIGGGG guy with lots of power.
Posted on Nov 25, 2002, 9:27 AM
Creekboat
by Ron
Thanks James but if the Y is like a 4X4 how can the CFS need even more HP to maneuver when its shorter and lighter with a lot more rocker. The Blunt's even bigger but overall these boats have very similar specs:
Blunt 8'2", 25" wide, 43lbs, 76 gal
Y 8'1", 25" wide, 45lbs, 73 gal
CFS 7'10", 25.74 wide, 42 lbs, 75 gal
Mutant 7'6", 25 wide 43lbs, 60 gal
Posted on Nov 26, 2002, 5:29 PM
creekboat
by James
Better start off by pointing out again, I have never paddled, or even seen a CFS C1 creekboat. Yes, all of the creekboats you listed have similar stats, as do a couple of others (big gun comes to mind). Hull shape on the Y & Blunt looks pretty different from the CFS, that major rocker on CFS makes me think it would not track well, and so be a bit of a big pig to try to drive down the creek or river. A number of paddlers on this board really like the H2 series, the 245 and 255, consider those as well. I guess calling the Y a 4X4 applies to the other full size creekboats as well (CFS, Blunt, big gun, phat), but I am shooting in the dark having not paddled them.
All this said, anything harder than the bottom moose or the beaver moiser section in NY, or the seven sisters on the Rouge at low water (if you know any of these sections), are too crazy for me at my skill level. So that is all the experience I can speak from, and I have seen guys more talented than me paddle their C1 playboats on these runs, so personal preference and one`s own skill level has a great role in what we paddle down nasty runs! Good luck!
Posted on Nov 27, 2002, 7:47 AM
by Ron
Anyone paddling a C1 CFS, Y or Blunt. I'm interested in how you rate the performance.
Posted on Nov 21, 2002, 5:44 PM
creekboats
by James
I paddle a Y, check back a couple of pages and you'll find my thoughts on it. The CFS is a dam large creekboat, the only guy I know who paddles one (as a kayak though) is a big boy and really has to muscle it around. I have heard good things about the blunt, my 2 cents worth would say CFS if you are a BBBBBIGGGG guy with lots of power.
Posted on Nov 25, 2002, 9:27 AM
Creekboat
by Ron
Thanks James but if the Y is like a 4X4 how can the CFS need even more HP to maneuver when its shorter and lighter with a lot more rocker. The Blunt's even bigger but overall these boats have very similar specs:
Blunt 8'2", 25" wide, 43lbs, 76 gal
Y 8'1", 25" wide, 45lbs, 73 gal
CFS 7'10", 25.74 wide, 42 lbs, 75 gal
Mutant 7'6", 25 wide 43lbs, 60 gal
Posted on Nov 26, 2002, 5:29 PM
creekboat
by James
Better start off by pointing out again, I have never paddled, or even seen a CFS C1 creekboat. Yes, all of the creekboats you listed have similar stats, as do a couple of others (big gun comes to mind). Hull shape on the Y & Blunt looks pretty different from the CFS, that major rocker on CFS makes me think it would not track well, and so be a bit of a big pig to try to drive down the creek or river. A number of paddlers on this board really like the H2 series, the 245 and 255, consider those as well. I guess calling the Y a 4X4 applies to the other full size creekboats as well (CFS, Blunt, big gun, phat), but I am shooting in the dark having not paddled them.
All this said, anything harder than the bottom moose or the beaver moiser section in NY, or the seven sisters on the Rouge at low water (if you know any of these sections), are too crazy for me at my skill level. So that is all the experience I can speak from, and I have seen guys more talented than me paddle their C1 playboats on these runs, so personal preference and one`s own skill level has a great role in what we paddle down nasty runs! Good luck!
Posted on Nov 27, 2002, 7:47 AM