C-1 conversion for Vengeance
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2003 8:36 pm
C-1 conversion for Vengeance
by Scott
Does a Vengeance make a good C-1? If so how do I go about converting it? Please help stuck with too many blades.
Posted on Oct 25, 2002, 12:35 PM
I've got one of those boats
by Eric
Scott,
I've paddled one of these for two years now. The boat is the only playboat I have owned. My lack of playboating skill draws from my ablility to really critique this boat. But here it goes...
The boat tracks very straight, as playboats go. I know the boat cartwheels much better as a c1 than a kayak. (so i hear .) C1ers tell me it cartwheels good. Harder to spin because of those hull channels, but possible. What I do know is that this boat is a decent river running boat. It is very stable . When truly trim, the boat will bow squirt on occasion. Slightly out of trim(stern heavy, maybe an 1/2 inch or so), and you can run big water and low class four creeks. I like the boat,and plan to keep it , but am looking for a short, stable, loose boat, namely a sub 6, as more or less a replacement in the near future.
I bought my Vengeance C1 already converted. The boat came as a shell from Dagger with the harmony c1 (dagger) saddle. If you go the Dagger saddle route, you'll need a front wall of minicell and the saddle kit, which I believe comes with some hardware and the thigh straps, which anchor in preexisting holes along the cockpit coaming. Screws anchor though the deck into the fore and aft minicell walls, and two bolts secure the front tabs of the saddle plastic through the side wall(s)
Something sugested to me by Bernie , another C1er, would be to glue a thin sheet of minicell to the roughed up floor of the boat, and then rough up the bottom of the saddle plastic, and glue to the minicell sheet. This method should secure the saddle in place with less hole drilling. This alleviates drilling holes through the sides of the boat, which is my biggest gripe with the Dagger system.
I have a lap belt , secured though the pre- exisitng holes for the kayak thigh hooks. My saddle seat back is 9 1/8 inches from the back outside lip of the cockpit. This is the even trim measurement for me , at 145 lbs.
Good luck with your adventure,
Eric
Posted on Oct 27, 2002, 4:53 PM
Thanks
by Scott
Thanks for the info. You wouldn't have any pics of the boat would you??
Posted on Oct 30, 2002, 2:24 PM
by Scott
Does a Vengeance make a good C-1? If so how do I go about converting it? Please help stuck with too many blades.
Posted on Oct 25, 2002, 12:35 PM
I've got one of those boats
by Eric
Scott,
I've paddled one of these for two years now. The boat is the only playboat I have owned. My lack of playboating skill draws from my ablility to really critique this boat. But here it goes...
The boat tracks very straight, as playboats go. I know the boat cartwheels much better as a c1 than a kayak. (so i hear .) C1ers tell me it cartwheels good. Harder to spin because of those hull channels, but possible. What I do know is that this boat is a decent river running boat. It is very stable . When truly trim, the boat will bow squirt on occasion. Slightly out of trim(stern heavy, maybe an 1/2 inch or so), and you can run big water and low class four creeks. I like the boat,and plan to keep it , but am looking for a short, stable, loose boat, namely a sub 6, as more or less a replacement in the near future.
I bought my Vengeance C1 already converted. The boat came as a shell from Dagger with the harmony c1 (dagger) saddle. If you go the Dagger saddle route, you'll need a front wall of minicell and the saddle kit, which I believe comes with some hardware and the thigh straps, which anchor in preexisting holes along the cockpit coaming. Screws anchor though the deck into the fore and aft minicell walls, and two bolts secure the front tabs of the saddle plastic through the side wall(s)
Something sugested to me by Bernie , another C1er, would be to glue a thin sheet of minicell to the roughed up floor of the boat, and then rough up the bottom of the saddle plastic, and glue to the minicell sheet. This method should secure the saddle in place with less hole drilling. This alleviates drilling holes through the sides of the boat, which is my biggest gripe with the Dagger system.
I have a lap belt , secured though the pre- exisitng holes for the kayak thigh hooks. My saddle seat back is 9 1/8 inches from the back outside lip of the cockpit. This is the even trim measurement for me , at 145 lbs.
Good luck with your adventure,
Eric
Posted on Oct 27, 2002, 4:53 PM
Thanks
by Scott
Thanks for the info. You wouldn't have any pics of the boat would you??
Posted on Oct 30, 2002, 2:24 PM