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'Sup with the dent? Is that part of the "active pry system"? And what the heck is that any way?

http://www.noc.com/ss/cneqzoom.htm

Enquiring minds...

That "dent" is the active pry system. You can order that boat with out it if you don;t like it or find it not useful. I think.

But it allows that paddle to get even more vertical and closer to the hull when doing stern draw's and pry;s, allow for greater pop and a stronger correction, which means you can spend less tim farting around with correction stokes and focuse on forward momentum. I didn't mind them when i paddled it and found them kinda cool, you can really feel the paddle lock in and make a solid purchase in the water.

I tried the Zoom and watched several other people paddle one - none of us were able to take advantage of the active-pry system. I suspect that it will work if your arms are just the right length. If your arms are too short, you might be tempted to put the saddle in too far aft (as seemed to be the case with the boat we paddled). Its good to hear that you can order the boat without them as I really wasn't struck on them.

I paddled Andrews back before Easter, I don`t know if the pry system will be a big selling point. You had to hit that pocket just right to take advantage of it. Be it be Andrews design or some of Esquifs other designers..... at least their thinking they`re thinking out of the box !!! I know Andrew has made a few more changes to his boat by pulling in his bow and pushing out his stern. You can feel a difference in the speed between his and Ryans boat. I been paddling a Detonator for three years now. So I can can really feel the difference in the initial stability between the Detonator and the Zoom, a trade off, speed over stability. But secondary you can take the Zoom to its gunnels and than some.... and its still there !!!! Would I buy a Zoom ? Yes! With pockets ? I don`t Know !

Al

I paddled Andrews back before Easter, I don`t know if the pry system will be a big selling point. You had to hit that pocket just right to take advantage of it. Be it be Andrews design or some of Esquifs other designers..... at least their thinking they`re thinking out of the box !!! I know Andrew has made a few more changes to his boat by pulling in his bow and pushing out his stern. You can feel a difference in the speed between his and Ryans boat. I`ve been paddling a Detonator for three years now. So I can can really feel the difference in the initial stability between the Detonator and the Zoom, a trade off, speed over stability. But secondary.... you can take the Zoom to its gunnels and than some.... and its still there !!!! Would I buy a Zoom ? Yes! With pockets ? I don`t Know !

Al

I'm getting sick of my Aftershock after 3 long years. I'm considering a Spanishfly, but worried that it might be more of the same. Looked at a couple of Ocoees, considered a Phantom for a minute as well as the Maxim. Anybody got any feedback they want to share? I heard that some Tellico boys really like the new Zoom but I didn't get any more detail than that.
Thanks,
JeffH

I'd really like to paddle these boats to compare. At 8'10" the Maxim is shorter than the Zoom, from the photos they seem to have a very similar hull shape. As with the Phantom, I've heard of many Ocoee paddlers not liking this type of boat.

Another option is the Pyrhana Prelude- seems to resemble a cut-down Ocoee but has the advantage of being made of plastic tougher than Royalex (as far as I know). There was also the Massive Air- not sure it's still around.

It'd be great to get some demos of these boats together and have a little test paddle at a festival this summer...

Aw, how cute, the widdle boatie’s got Dimples! Man, my initial thought is that this reeks of Yuppie-on-a-stick; sorta maybe a “Trendsucker addition”. You’d have to be the correct height/weight/arm length/paddle length et al, for this to work, don’t you think? For what, maybe 10-15 degrees better angle? And I thought that the closer to the END of the boat, the easier the turning ability. And if you slide your shaft down the gunnel to set up for your “J” or reverse Sweep section, you’d have the possible uncertainty of the shaft bumping through that dip. Plus the fact that you can’t transfer your “new paddling style” to any other boat. That said, one of the things that I like about my bent-shaft paddle is how much less I have to stick out my top hand for a draw stroke………
RT