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Yup, it's baaack-the Maven page. Missing a lot of intermediate images that I have yet to scan, but with some on-water shots from today! And where else can you see more images of the creation of <b> THIS</b> boat





Here, of course! (or from the CBoats home page).

Keep us posted as to how things progress!!!

Hey Adam,

Just curious: How does your Maven design compare to the Groove? From the photos, I can see that the Maven is longer and lower in volume. I imagine it is narrower. What insights can you offer regarding a comparison?

Adam, it looks good. I would like to try it on flat water. Will you be coming to the Deerfield anytime soon? If not, how about the West River Fest at the end of September?
til next
Jim

Ok, here we go:

Cone Bone: The Maven is only like the Groove in two respects-1, it's glass , two, it's a challenge . You are completely correct in that it is narrower (by over 6"-the Groove is WIDE), longer (by 12", and MUCH lower volume ("slicey" doesn't even begin to describe it ).

Jim: I'm swamped with work, and actually have to go to Maryland later this week (I'll be there this weekend...). Technology rollouts are SO much fun....

So, here's the plan for the Maven. Not the time line I might have liked, but it is reasonable, and will most likely get accomplished :

July-August-finish sanding boat to ready for filler
July-August-apply filler to turn it into a true Plug
Octoberish-Dec-Make mold from Boat (I'm getting some local expert help here, and this is when they're available)
Early 2004-Make a Maven. Or three (one for said help, one for me, one for a Demo).
Spring 2004-let y'all demo the Maven

So, not as soon as I'd hoped, but with everything else going on right now it's do-able. I'll keep you all posted, don't worry, and post up more images I'm missing, plus images as I sand, fill, etc.... There is A LOT of work involved in prepping this plug for a mold.

So this is some kind of joke, right? I mean, this isn’t a boat, this is two surfboard pieces taped to a pothole cover…………………………. WAIDAMINNUT!
As I scroll further, he’s putting it in the water …..He’s paddling it……….. it is!
It IS a boat!!!!
WAYTAGO, ADAM!!!!!

RT

Cool pictures! I like the boat, its neat. Anyways keep on paddlin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve Dunlap and I built an almost identical boat in the late '80s by cutting 5" from an Ultramax. The ends of our boat were a bit more rounded (as viewed from the top). Initially we had heel bumps in the rear deck but later added a conning tower like yours. We called it a MicroBat sometimes, but mostly "The Death Machine". If you guys get to try it out, you'll know why.

It was great fun in flatwater, but absolutely scary otherwise.

wow, looks like fun adam. have you ever heard of anyone building a glass playboat (something short, like a forplay, but out of glass)?
Alden

I believe most play boats are prototyped in glass prior to production (following the same steps Adam is going through). I don't think computer added design has come that far in the paddling market. I'm not sure if you can get copies of them from the open market but you could ask. Try asking on boatertalk.com - I'm sure one of the designers will answer you on that.
I know the Sleek (K from New Wave) was prototyped in glass prior to production and was produded in glass upon request.
Not sure if I would want to play with a prototype since they are usually not a very heavy lay up (usually fewer laminates and dryer resin applied). Besides I'm a cluz when it comes to rocks even with plastic.
Protodesigns would be sort of dixie cup boats (disposal) since the evolve. But then if the price was right! No harm asking! Let us know!

You are correct! Most boats are worked out in Glass first, but more of the prototypes are either really flimsy (ala Maven), or super-heavy due to all the glass / shaping material that's been added to get it "just right".

If you're looking for a glass playboat, you want a Groove. When I boated Kalin's Forplay a few years ago (thanks again, Mr. Great White North!) I felt it boated a lot like a more buoyant, friendly Groove. Not as loose though (I still think the Groove has the loosest hull on the planet). I think Kalin still knows of one for sale, though it may have sold by now. If you want to try one out sometime, let me know-I'm over in Glens Falls a lot these days which isn't too far from Middlebury.