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I was wondering how effective bilge pumps are for OC's. I've been paddling some continous Cl III+ or so white water with some large standing/breaking waves and have had trouble keeping dry. It seems dangerous to be paddling full of water. I can't eddy out as quick as my kayaker friends when I'm full of water and with the threat of ice across the river around each bend I'm a little worried. It's also very cold to be sitting in the water. Hopefully the bilge pump would help. The other alternative is to do C-1ing or kayaking(gasp!!). Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Charlie

I love my 10oz 1000+gph electric bilge pump from

www.rapidrunnerbilge.com

It empties my Phantom from "just rolled full" in about 30 seconds.
Really good customer service too.

I can't really see ever going without one now in an open boat...

Canoe Pump Systems has one for a fair price $150.00 + shipping it is a 1250 gph pump with a battery that will last for a weekend of class 3-4 paddling between charges. I have been useing mine for over a year now and have never had a problem out of it and it keeps me dry in those long wave trains. I will some times try to take the wettest line down a wavetrain
just for the fun of it
email at riverrat4fun@comcast.net

I just built one for this year. Cost +/- $100 (CDN). Got most parts from Canadian Tire. Empties my Nitro in about 20-30 seconds. Would never be without one now.
Geoff

Hi Geoff,

Mind sharing the "specs" of the pump you installed?

What type/size of pump, battery and switch are working for you?

Cheers, Pat.

does it make you go faster when the water come out the back

yes, but you'd go faster even if it came out the front- just so long as it comes out.

Here's a descritpion of the SeaSense V-1250 Bilge Pump at Canadian Tire for only 44.99 $ Can. ( that's like 5$ US )

You can also see the specs on their site at canadiantire.ca


Draws only 2.6 AMPS for long pump and battery life
Powerful 1250 gallon per hour output
Delivers up to 60% more flow per AMP (GPH/AMP) than competitive size pumps
Easy to install multi-position mounting bracket
Compact size fits into tight places
At 13.6 volt-DC, output: 1250gph @ 0 ft., 950gph @ 3.3 ft.
Meets ABYC , U.S. Coast Guard and ISO standards
Approximately 5-1/3 x 5 x 5" (13.5 x 12.5 x 12.5cm) and weighs 1.57 lb (.7kg)



Cheers

Pascal

Sounds just like the Attwood V-1250 sold in the US and on line for about $30.

Yup ! you're right, they are identical.

Here's the crappy tire bilge pump BOM - I believe it's what Geoff used.

http://www.cboats.net/cforum/viewtopic. ... light=pump

Canoe Pump Systems Will put togeter a kit for $25.00 (us) over retail price of the parts. I am just a poor boy trying to scrape enough money to get a new boat. And save you from running around and getting (finding) all of the parts.
the parts include a
attwood 1250gph pump $48.00
5.0 amp hour sealed lead acid battery $25.00
2 prong conector $7.00
wire & termenals maybe $5.00 to $10.00
and a toggle switch that is completly sealed from the top and the bottom.can be operated under the water down to 10 feet. So you don't need a dry box and rubber switch boot. $26.00 Every thing is submersible. The switch can be mounted below the gunnel (on your paddle side) for so you don't have to take your hand off of the paddle. or it can be put on the front of your foam saddle
the charger is optional they range from $17.00 to around $50.00 and you can get from wal-mart a power inverter that plugs into you car cig. lighter and has 110v plug on it so you can charge while you are driving to the river.
For more info and or pics of my instal Email me at oc1dude@yahoo.com
or at riverrat4fun@comcast.net
Steve

You got the pump right; Atwood 1250 GPH.
Where did you find the waterproof toggle switch?
I had to make one with an unsealed switch and rubber boot - mounted it into a 2" PVC pipe with end caps, as opposed to a dry box. It's connected to the battery/dry-box with a length of low voltage outdoor lighting cable.
Really cheap, and looks like a pipe bomb; I'll have fun crossing the border with it!
Thanks for everyone's help in constructing the pump.
Geoff
Kayaker by nature, OC-1 by choice.

the switch was damm hard to find, seached the internet for weeks and weeks. finaly found a company that makes them and ordered 10 of them. they had to be made for me, so it took 10 weeks to get them. witch was good because they said it would take 12 to 14 weeks.
they are are not cheep. but it is nice not to have to mount a switch in a dry box. then try to find a place to put that to. i am wide open on the place to mount my switch, in the saddle, on a thwart, or like mine under the gunnel. i can turn on my pump with 2 hands on the paddle and the blade in the water just reach out with my thumb on my shaft hand
i will sell you just a switch if you want to build your on system. but again they are not cheep $35.00 (us)
contact canoe pump systems
email at oc1dude@yahoo.com or at riverrat4fun@comcast.net

Andrew designed the new creek boat the Teaure with the two step bow I don't take on enought water to worry about a pump, hades when you have to roll it you don't have but 2 to 3 inches of water in it. However I'd go with a pump myself before I'd wear a skirt