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Thought it was fiberglass, but told it was Kevlar

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:24 pm
by chuck naill
Well, the old Noah C-1 I got from $75 appears to be made out of Kevlar to someone who talked like they knew something. 8)

All I know right now is that the 12.5 foot boat, that Vladimir does not remember making, gave me a nice ride over the weekend and generated some interest from the slalom paddlers I met. One said it was "Hauneist" in the bow which I took to mean that it was similar to a Haun design. :o

I know one thing, I am in love with these light weight and long boats. Coming from a converted Dagger GT, the speed on this racers really surprised me. Additionally, my old Gyromax and Slasher are not anything similar to this Noah. :P

My suggestion is if you have the funds, get Kaz to build you a glass boat. :D

Chuck Incognito :wink:

Slalom boats

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:05 pm
by John Coraor
It's a given that any rotomolded design you paddle will have greater speed, both straight ahead and in turning, if it is instead manufactured in a composite layup, just due to the lighter weight. This got to be such a factor in slalom racing that the ICF instituted a minimum weight requirement for slalom boats back in the 80s just so those people able to make high-tech superlight layups wouldn't have an advantage over those who couldn't afford the new technology. When you add a longer, faster design to the light weight of a composite boat, then you really begin to pick-up speed!

John

layups

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:07 am
by chuck naill
The deck on this Noah is so thin that I cannot put any pressure while I am getting in and out for fear of breaking through. :oops:

I was asked if it was a Jape, but it is not long enough and does not have the gratuitous wings. I probably butchered gratuitous :roll:

Another comment was that Vladimir, being an old European craftsman, may have built the boat 6" short thinking it would not be measured. Who knows. :roll:

Chuck

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:46 am
by ezwater
Vladimir did not build any boats "short" unintentionally. I still think you have one of the Atlantis series. Give us a good picture so we can tell. If I could see the boat, I could tell whether it was an early, middle period, or late Atlantis. None of them had wings. The early ones were most like the Jape, but had more volume. The latest ones were rather chiney, like the Jape on C1 Race Boats.

My Magma, originally a C-1 but converted to kayak, is 12' 6" long. That Vladimir intended it as a dual purpose boat is seen in its width, 24". Vladimir does not remember my boat either, even though he personally sold it to me in 1983.

Atlantis

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:10 pm
by chuck naill
I think you are probably correct. The boat has a very thin top which is yellow and has the Noah trademarks on both ends which Vladimir confirms is his trademarks. THe bottom is natural Kevlar color.

THe boat is in excellent condition and paddling it convinced me that I was missing something by not paddling a glass boat where appropriate.

Thanks for the reply. I sent you an email so that I can send some pictures

Chuck

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 3:22 am
by ezwater
I may not have recognized the e-mail. I hope I didn't mark it as spam. Anyway, I haven't seen it yet.

EZ

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:34 am
by chuck naill
I sent you a messege from this web page asking for your email acct. I don't know how to post pictures on C-Boats. :oops: If you know how...thanks. 8)

Chuck

EZWater...

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:00 pm
by Sir Adam
I got the bouce from AOL this morning noting you were no longer accepting e-mail from CBoats.net...so unless you change your AOL spam filter permissions you will not be receiving any more e-mail from CBoats (hence my typing this hear on the board, versus e-mailing you personally...).

not AOL

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:42 pm
by chuck naill
here is my email address which I been using since I joined CBoats.net :oops:

chucknaill@hotmail.com

If I need to make an adjust ment please let me know. I do not have AOL filters to adjust.

Chuck