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Any one know if you can still get headwaters thight straps?

And if so do they have a website?

Or any other method of paddling 2" webbing to stop it cutting into my legs when boating.

These look nice

http://www.belugaworld.com/en/index.html

I've been using the top straps from snowboard bindings for about a year and a half now and really like them (I got in a boat with 2" webbing straps over the weekend and I don't think I could go back to them).

The snowboard straps are usually padded and have the nice ratcheting system that wont slip or pull loose. Also, unlike webbing, they don't strech when they get wet.

The only downside is they are different to release that regular velcro, in that you have to pull the release tabs and on some designs the release tabs require more effort to release than others.

For creeking I wouldn't use the snowboard straps, just my personal preference, but for everything else they are great. I'll post some pics of my setup tonight.

thigh straps are too long for most current applications.

Back in the day folks often attached straps to the gunwale or a thwart. The boats were also wider. With the smaller modern boats and our tendancy to attach straps lower on the hull some of the older straps will not work. I think that the headwaters straps are in this catagory. It is possible that they have redesigned but be aware of this possible issue. Chris Kelly

HE OWED HEADWATER BEFORE DAGGER BOUGHT THEM. yOU CAMN GET A HOLD OF HINM AT CONFLUNCES, PARENT COMPANY OF WAVE SPORTS.

I have been toying with using snowboard style ratchet straps, how do you attach them to webbing and what webbing do i use?

It's pretty easy, I use 1" webbing and make holes in it with an old soldering iron to make holes in it (stinky but effective), then use some hardware to attach it. I'll post the pictures tonight or tomorrow morning, seeing the setup will explain it a lot better than me trying to fumble through words to do it.

Also if you are worried about entrapment because of release problems, it is possible to make a quick release that releases both straps with one motion, I'll post pics of that too.

Those pics would be a great help.

If you dont manage to post them on Cboats my email is

colincol78@aol.com

Thanks

Col

I purchased the straps from Dagger when they stopped making
c-1's. I still have several sets if you are interested.
Post request on this board because my e-mail address is in the process of being changed.

Ok, here are some pictures of the thigh straps ( the strap*.jpg ones), I threw them up kinda quick but hopefully I can do a little write up on them and pretty it up soon.

I'm kicking myself in the but now that I never took photos of all my old outfitted / converted K1s before I changed them back and sold them after getting a Bigboy.

The bolts I used for attaching the straps were from something I had laying around but a company called Hillman makes "Tee nuts" that look like they would work a little better and will be what I use in my next project.

If you have any questions, I'll be happy to try and answer them.

http://cornyouthalliance.org/images/outfitting/

Do you use that quick release in combination with the snowboard ratchets?

Cheers, Jan

Jan_dettmer wrote:Do you use that quick release in combination with the snowboard ratchets?

Yes, I have.

The quick release setup in the picture was from a Pyranha 7-0, I used 1" flat (non-tublar) webbing, punched one hole in an end of each peice, used a gromit (the kind you would use on something like a large canvas or tarp) to stop the hole from ripping, then used short sections of parachute cord to attach the ladder section of the snowboard straps.

The buckle in the picture is plastic and I had some problems with the webbing slipping through it and releasing the straps unexpectedly (was an interesting suprise on my first trip through the Olympic section of the Ocoee) so I'd recomend using a metal one with teeth, kinda like the ones in the Mohawk outfitting. Most dive shops should be able to order you one.

I'm still trying to figure out a way to (and if I want to) put a quick release in the Bigboy. If I do, I'll be sure and post the pictures.

mshelton---- sounds like grommets alone were enough, but what I do is soak the last two inches of the strap in SeamGrip. Then I install the grommets, with a little more seam grip to keep them locked in.