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Independent Study

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:28 am
by xmas0c1c1k1
So i have an oppurtunity to do an independent study on canoeing for school next semester was hoping yall might be able to help brainstorm some ideas it does not have to be strictly academic ie read books write papers it could be more hands on like help event planning or something like that any ideas would be appreciated i am limited in that i cant paddle for a while due to recent shoulder surgery :( . Also have to do an internship this summer hoping to be involved in something to do with cboating so if anybody needs some FREE help or know somebody that does ideas for that would be appreciated
thanks
drew xmas

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:19 am
by bearboater
when I was a physics major, I researched canoe hull design for flatwater racing boats. I didn't find anything really exciting, but it was cool, involved alot of math, and alot more work modeling, and shaping the hulls in miniature versions. that was rather exciting.
Prost
happy new year
-Isaac

boatin

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:00 pm
by Alden
Maybe you could do an experiment starring Brevard canoeist Will Lyons. You could see how he does in different rapids and in different boats. Your control rapid could be Gorilla, and then you could put Will in all these crazy boats (a Smanish Fly [the Smerda version], a Necky 'Blunt' that is actually made of hemp [you can probably get one of those up in Asheville], a Maven, a Pat Keller [actually paddling Pat Keller down the Green - Dagger is marking this lately since he's such a big star and they're hard up for cash], etc.) And then you could make Will run all these big southeast rapids, like the last drop of Triple Drop, or Big Boy, or The Mangler. I have a cousin who is a supermodel, who can come along to motivate him. You could have Louie write up the report. I think overall it would be an interesting experiment.
Alden

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:48 pm
by Tiggy
physics and boating go hand in hand!! :P

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:26 pm
by Larry Horne
...so glad alden is back! i needed a good laugh :lol: :lol:

Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:22 pm
by KNeal
Cornell University has an outdoor adventure center/club that used to host a slalom race on Falls Creek in the spring. If that sounds like something you want to try, PM me and I'll see if I can get the name of the guy who headed it up.

KNeal

Icebreaker Race

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:51 am
by AYockey
The Colorado School of Mines also hosts or has hosted a race on clear creek we had a slalom, rodeo and all of that. We even gave a boat to the winning club. It counted as a whole class there.

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:48 am
by bearboater
are you thinking on the physics side of things, or what direction are you heading?
Prost
-Isaac

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:54 am
by xmas0c1c1k1
Physics would not be a good realm for me considering that i am a Wilderness Leadership and Experiential Education basically i just like to canoe and c1. I'm not totally sure what direction this is going to take me just kinda looking for some ideas. My fallback if nothing else sparks my intrest would be history of canoeing or history and future of canoe design the race stuff would interest me but the locations mentioned are a bit far away from me im located in north carolina. Just looking for ideas. It will be a three hour credit basically one class so it doesn't have to a huge project.

Thanks Again

boatin

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:42 pm
by Alden
Maybe you could do a study of Camp Mondamin. I'm serious - that place mystifies me. Same thing with Valley Mill in its day. I just cannot believe how many good boaters - many of them cboaters - have come out of there. What do they do to turn these kids into paddling fanatics? I mean just off the top of my head I can think of two slalom Olympians and two world champion C-1 rodeo boaters who came out of Mondamin. There might be some interesting people to interview down there. I don't know. But that's a h-ll of a source of new cboaters, that place. Do they have some kind of magic formula? Up here in DC I see two very different approaches between the two top paddling schools, and it's interesting to see which students stick where and who becomes a fanatic.

Alden

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:46 pm
by CosmikDebris
Why don't you start by boating...loser.
Can't wait to see you again it's been so long!:oops:

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:17 am
by xmas0c1c1k1
maybe i can just tie my shoulder together and get back out there. Back tom. Oh and i have yet another surprise hahaha.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:01 am
by Paddle Power
Drew,

There are lots of idea:
1. History of canoe instruction in your area/locale
2. Future treads
3. Influences of the other state and/or the national body
4. Document the past (events, racers, coaches, organizations, etc.)
5. Older leaders/mentors have moved on, get their life histories
6. Further what we know about canoeing, link it to our discipline
7. Document “the players” in your local canoeing and instructing world
8. Adult Leadership within Organizations such as camps, boy scouts, girl guides, the “Y” (YMCA/YWCA), church groups, etc
9. Formal canoe instruction vs informal instruction
10. Self-instruction, books, videos, etc vs face to face instruction
11. Continuing Education programs such as at the pool, School Divisions, Universities, etc
12. Instructors traveling to other states, countries, etc
13. Why did you take a course/read a book?
14. Why did you NOT take a course/read a book?
15. Technology and the Internet such as the C-Forum, how as it changed canoeing?
16. CBoats.net "The idea on the forum was to have a "virtual museum" where the general public could obtain information about different boats, outfitting, and find fellow canoeists in their area." What is the result?
17. Related ideas:
18. Wilderness first aid
19. Paddling instruction (K and C)
20. Canoe building
21. Paddle building
22. Canoe racing
23. Guiding training (leadership school)
24. Wilderness Leadership linked to non-wilderness leadership (racing leadership?)
25. Experiential Education of coaches? racers?

Well, I made it to 25. Good luck with your studies.