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2" quick release cam buckles

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:11 pm
by CDawg
I'm having trouble staying in one of my boats, WS X c-1. I'm thinking that if I replace the 1" straps with a 2" strap I might stay put a little better. Can anyone direct me to a source for the 2" cam type quick release buckles (I'm thinking of the type used on a rescue vest) and anchor hdw?

Thanks, 8)
Dennis

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:46 pm
by kneeler
Those buckles typically suck. The gates pop off under pressure. I stopped using them because they fail when you really need them.

You can find them at EMS. They're usually behind the counter in a tray of buckles, clips, and the like. I've seen them at various other outfitters in the Northeast.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:11 pm
by East Coast Canoes
CDawg,
what exactly are you looking for?
i make custom straps and buckle combos.
i sell the webbing and buckles seperatly or sewned to your specs.
the cam buckles i use are plastic but made better than some of the cheaper ones also they come with a grab ball for easy finding
let me know
john

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:22 pm
by PAC
Good thoughts on straps and buckles. I put 2'' strap in most of my boats now. Others add a second stapping system lower on the leg (Mikey Lee style).

You might also want to look at installing a bulk head (or suicide block) in conjunction so that you really are "wearing" your boat.

Others add versions of butt blocks (higher seat back) and hip pads as well. Although I'm not real found of hip pads others swear by them!

Just random thoughts!

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:35 pm
by East Coast Canoes
good info PAC
the Mike Yee outfitting is good for open boats but in a C1 it gets cramped up if you using a compression block
here's a couple of examples of straps and blocks
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let em know
john

The pic of the strap in your post

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:04 pm
by CDawg
Hi John

The pic of the strap in your post, with the ball attached to the release, looks exactly like what I'd need. I'd still need to locate the anchor hardware to bolt it in top & bottom. I had some old aircraft seatbelt anchors that would have been perfect (looks like a triangle with a slot on one side and bolt hole in opposite corner), but they got tossed. Any idea on where to get the anchor setup?

On second thought, I should ask if you even use the metal anchors, it looks from the pic that you have holes through the webbing. Thanks for the info.

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:21 pm
by East Coast Canoes
Cdawg,
here a couple of pics of some anchors, i can make any setup you need , any configuire
just let me know
john



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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:00 pm
by beach
I installed Snowboard straps in my Wheelboy (suggested on Cboats), and plan to add a similar set-up to my Fink. Works perfectly for me. E-mail me for photos if it might help

Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:27 pm
by sbroam

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:28 am
by Mike W.
I've been using 2" plastic cam-buckles from a dive shop for years. I've only broken one so far. The problem I've found is that the clearance differs on them. Some are good for the diver's weight belt & some are good for seat-belt material.

I like a lap-belt / bulkhead system to keep me in the boat. Here's a link to a Forplay that I had a while back: http://cboats.net/c_db/list.php?type=5& ... me=Forplay

Looks like East Coast Canoes has some good options.

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:04 pm
by msims
GO to cip1.ca - they sell VW cam buckles (similar to airplane buckles, only steel). I've had mine for a few years now, no rust. You can get two pairs for about 60 buck. It comes with straps too. I just drill a hole through the top of the buckle and BLAMMO you have a hole for a grab loop.

VW Seat Belts

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 9:27 pm
by Marc Evans
I'm with msims on this one. I bought a couple of VW seatbelts from Cip1 ($34.00 for two at the time, now $21.00 each) and really like them. A cord between the two and with one pull they are both released. No chance of a hang-up like the cam type or snow board buckles. I check them periodically, but have seen no rust or corrosion. There are some photos of my Finkenmeister set-up at the following URL:

http://picasaweb.google.com/53kimbo/FinkenmeisterSetUp

Marc

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:21 am
by Craig Smerda
do not use these as a lap belt... please!
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i'm a big fan of airline belts or vw style belts... drill a hole in the lever... insert a short piece of rope and an easy to find grab handle... one pull and your out... no binding due to belt being loomed or looped through a plastic buckle... and what ever you do... don't ever use push button style automotive seat belts.
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http://www.jcwhitney.com/Lap-Seat-Belts ... _10110.jcw