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Trying to get into creeking. I've been a playboater for 4 years and a whitewater tripper since I was a kid, so I know my way around c-boats, however I have zero experience with creeks and creek boats. I'm interested in either buying an already converted creeker, or a good creeker that I can convert myself. I am limited by price, so I'm probably looking at an older boat.

I'd really appreciate any suggestions, and by all means if you've got an old boat you're looking to sell let me know. i'm in Toronto ON.

Here at CBoats you can search boats, try the conversion section and see what's there for creeking.

Also here at CBoats you can search the C Forum messages. Try searching a lots will come up.

Personally, I like Prijon boats b/c of the excellent hull material & pillar free design for creeking, but there are other good options.

Not a true creeker, but on MEC there is Dagger Redline for sale in TO, but you'd have to do the conversion.

Pat.

Right: this topic is a very popular one, search the forum and you'll find tons of info.

If you like a very edgy hull the pyranha burn is almost the only one in its category (with hercule?), if you like'em round the Jefe is good but lots of other choices as well, if you like average edges the Remix is good (Speedy but not as full volume) or karnali or others. If you would enjoy weird rails, the fluid solo is the only creeker I know that offers a rear hatch. (nice!)

Remember C1 creeking is a dangerous beast; outfit is critical, avoid lapstrap if you can, also a one shot pull for both skirt and straps is easy to do and helps quite a bit. Watch out foot entrapment (most are boating barefoot) and practice wet exit before you hit the steeps.

Have fun,

Marc.

Playboaters make great creekers! because you don't fear the hole
that is...once you get used to the gigantic boat!

My advice would be don't try to get too small of a creekboat. Big is good. I might stay away from an old school river runner like the redline..a little too low and edgy in the stern in my opinion. You want big and predictable....like the Blunt i might be selling.

Also... I don't know about others, but I would never go creeking barefoot. With the right shoes and outfitting, it's all good.

I like the Jefe and Jefe Grande; for something less twitchy, the Everest is great.

Also, this article by Ben McKeown might be interesting to you, though it's more for a general interest audience of kayakers.

i love my prijon hercules as an edgy creeker. paddled a remix quite a bit before. i don't think c1ing is any more dangerous than k1 if outfitting is well done. there are trade offs. pin's can be potentially worse in c1, but i had a massive piton on a terrrible line that has broken kayakers' ankles before and was fine. would have been better if i hadn't biffed and lost my angle of course....

BTW, just realized that Jackson is coming up this year with a new creeker that has some (faded) edges: the villain. Huge volume, certainly less speed then a remix... Maybe an OK conversion; certainly better then their awful rocker.

On another note, they've also came up with another new model called the "allwater" that looks a whole lot like the remix XP. I wonder how much more they are willing to copy-paste on the LL stuff?

my son went with the kalnallie or sumthin like that from Pyranara