What type of pogies

2opnboat1 · Post by **2opnboat1** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:49 pm

Just wondering What types of pogies you prefer.

Bob P · Post by **Bob P** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:01 pm

My homemade 1/8" neoprene design. As long as your handle isn't too large, they will stretch over it and still seal enough of the shaft so that the lower hand stays fairly dry. And in my C1, my hand dips into the water a lot!

http://www.wwslalom.net/pogies

xmas0c1c1k1 · Post by **xmas0c1c1k1** » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:59 pm

Mountainsurf

Todhunter · Post by **Todhunter** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:00 pm

I think mine are snapdragon? I only use the shaft one - the top one is annoying. With a dry suit, you'd be surprised how warm your t-grip hand stays.

ckingoc1 · Post by **ckingoc1** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:05 pm

Todhunter wrote:I think mine are snapdragon? I only use the shaft one - the top one is annoying. With a dry suit, you'd be surprised how warm your t-grip hand stays.

I have the same kind. Usually I go ahead and put both pogges on but slide the T-grip one down because my hand is hot. Matt's right though most of the time you could just use the shaft one and be happy (so if you see a kayak paddle with some....). But after a swim or on a really cold day it’s nice to be able to warm both hands.

Larry Horne · Post by **Larry Horne** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:51 pm

same here, but if it's cold i wear a nice warm glove on my t grip hand.
this also makes a pair of pogies last 2x as long.
advantage=c-boat

Don Beyer · Post by **Don Beyer** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:47 pm

I use a pair of Stohlquist pogies I've had for many years. They're nylon with pile lining. The great thing is that they are made for single blade. The T-grip pogie fits the top hand nicely.
I've kept my eye out but haven't seen any others like these on the market.

bearboater · Post by **bearboater** » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:50 pm

I trained in Durango CO(high alpine, really cold), all last winter, and I can safely say that for control, the best thing out there is a ton of wax on the shaft. aside from that, I hate pogies. and usually just let my hand go numb. pogies can work, but I never thought they did much for me, so I just let them go all together.
i've seen a nice looking pair of kokatat or NRS ones that are made of gore-tex though... that would be something to look into...
cheers
-ids

Larry Horne · Post by **Larry Horne** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:04 am

you slalom ninnies.. you probably suffered frost bite just to save a couple grams

you were probably wearing a shorty too, huh.

out here in the real world now, besides being warm, a pogie on the shaft hand is friking great knuckle protection!
seems like skin comes off easier in the cold...

Mike W. · Post by **Mike W.** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:06 am

Bob P wrote:My homemade 1/8" neoprene design. As long as your handle isn't too large, they will stretch over it and still seal enough of the shaft so that the lower hand stays fairly dry. And in my C1, my hand dips into the water a lot!

http://www.wwslalom.net/pogies

Bob's pogies ROCK!

That said, I did modify his design to make it easier to get the top hand in & out. I widened the top, which allows water in when you roll. Then I made a 45 degree cut, enlarging the shaft hole to allow that water to drain (if that hole isn't quite big enough, stick out your thumb to open it & drain the water from your roll). If you stay upright, they're just about as warm as before the mods (your hand will still sweat in moderately cold temps). As stated above, if it's not real cold I'll just use the one on the shaft.

Also, make sure to make them long enough to come up, over the cuff on your drysuit.

xmas0c1c1k1 · Post by **xmas0c1c1k1** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:26 am

mountainsurf makes c1 creek mitts which I use and are as good as any out there inmho one shaft pogie and one made for a t-grip[/i]

Post by **sbroam** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:58 am

+1 on MS Creek Mitts.

ohioboater · Post by **ohioboater** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:01 pm

I started out using a pair of c-specific pogies, maybe Mountain Surf brand - can't remember. Nice and warm, but the T-grip mitt is awkward to get your hand back into. It's also awkward to try to hold the t-grip without putting your hand back in. I discovered this in the middle of a shallow rapid when my blade caught a rock on the downstream side, and I had to let go of the t-grip in a hurry to avoid getting flipped.

I now use a set of 1/8" neoprene gloves. They work just fine for open boating, where your hands seldom get submerged. Might not be quite so warm for the bottom hand in a C1...

the great gonzo · Post by **the great gonzo** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:07 pm

another vote for Mountain Surf. John Mason makes awesome products.

TGG!

bearboater · Post by **bearboater** » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:13 pm

Larry,
your'e right, i did most things to save weight, but I also cannot stand to deal with anything that impinges on my wrist/paddle mobility... I only wore a shorty if it was over 20, the water temp was the real issue... ;).