Remix 100?
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:02 am
saw that several green racers were using a Remix 100-including a c1-but no mention of this boat on LL's website. is this a new boat? am i dense? what gives?
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:15 am
I believe it was designed a few years back with the Green race in mind...but the thinking is/was that they wouldn't/couldn't sell enough of them to make it profitable...so only the sponsored guys use them?
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:19 am
Saw this a few weeks ago. It was a very limited edition composite boat that they made in 2008 for the Green Race. There are some more interesting blog entries about the Stinger, the 2009 update to the Remix 100.
http://shanesliquidlogic.blogspot.com/2 ... ody-i.html
http://shanesliquidlogic.blogspot.com/2 ... ody-i.html
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:38 am
Partly right. The Remix 100 was plastic, but molded in a composite mold, as was the Stinger. They did a limited run of Stingers for sale to the general public this year as well.Shep wrote:Saw this a few weeks ago. It was a very limited edition composite boat that they made in 2008 for the Green Race. There are some more interesting blog entries about the Stinger, the 2009 update to the Remix 100.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:55 am
interesting... couldn't find the exact specs of it anywhere but I always thought the stinger would paddle really well as a C1... Some kind of an updated design cascade somehow... Would really like to try one of these bad boys one day sure it would do an interesting river runner.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:43 am
There's actually a ton of info hidden in the entries on Shane's Blog. The Stinger is supposedly a lengthened version of the 100 (but only in the stern). He also says that he changed the chines towards the bow, but it sounds like the width wasn't modified from the 100...
Here is what he says about the 100's modifications from the Remix 69:
Here is what he says about the 100's modifications from the Remix 69:
ShepI used the Remix as a starting point because it has a good base speed and controlable shape and then tweaked it to make it faster. The main things I changed were obviously length taking it from 9 feet to 11'9" and then from 26" wide to 23 1/2". I also dropped the stern rocker and narrowed the chimes a bit to keep adding speed. I kept the hull flatness from the center of the boat to the stern for a couple reasons. The biggest reason was planing out from the bottom of the slides or any rapid for that matter. Once you come off the slides you fly out across the pool for a great glide in this boat. The bow is raised a bit and beefed up a touch for punching through stuff and the bow deck is very crowned so it will surface quickly. The stern deck is fairly flat so that you still get the watermelon affect out of holes or melting situations.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:20 am
23.5" wide and people want to use it as a C-1? Not me.
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:30 am
yarnellboat wrote:23.5" wide and people want to use it as a C-1? Not me.
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wow, not me anymore either ! 
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:32 am
I seem to remember a discussion of C-1'ing a Greenboat (24.25" width) from a while back with a very similar conclusion. It sounds like people think 26-27 is the sweet-spot for a C-1 width.
Hey... 100th post!
Shep
Hey... 100th post!
Shep
stinger
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:42 am
I picked up a Stinger from Shane this fall (with a custom retractable skeg), and converted it. Only had it out twice so far, once on the upper Yough and then in the Russell Fork Race. It's a great boat. Doesn't require as many off-side strokes to steer compared to the greenboat (tracks much better), and I think faster in the flat water.
The width doesn't see to be much of an issue, it's plenty stable.
The skeg idea came from paddling wildwater boats with skegs. It's makes a big difference in the speed of the boat, and the efficiency. Takes a lot less work to go fast. And while it does make it harder to turn, turning is definitely not the point when you're racing.
I'll try to post more info about the boat as I get more time in it this winter.
jay
The width doesn't see to be much of an issue, it's plenty stable.
The skeg idea came from paddling wildwater boats with skegs. It's makes a big difference in the speed of the boat, and the efficiency. Takes a lot less work to go fast. And while it does make it harder to turn, turning is definitely not the point when you're racing.
I'll try to post more info about the boat as I get more time in it this winter.
jay
Cool thread ya'll! Let me know if I can answer questions. nt
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:45 pm
cheers
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:54 pm
Oops I meant
If you have any questions feel free to ask.
Cheers
Shane
If you have any questions feel free to ask.
Cheers
Shane
Re: stinger
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:55 pm
just curious, what's your saddle height?JFD wrote:The width doesn't see to be much of an issue, it's plenty stable.
jay
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:16 pm
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:07 pm
Shane, I promise this isn't a loaded question, but if it's not info you are comfortable sharing, I understand... Mostly just for my edification. I have some experience with a particularly popular parametric solid modelling software, and I dream of someday getting to make boats.
When you build a composite mold for a plastic boat, I'm assuming it still goes in the roto-molding machine? How many plastic hulls can you usually get out of a composite mold? What kind of software do you use for designing hull shapes?
Thanks!
Shep
When you build a composite mold for a plastic boat, I'm assuming it still goes in the roto-molding machine? How many plastic hulls can you usually get out of a composite mold? What kind of software do you use for designing hull shapes?
Thanks!
Shep