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stern-mount camera

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:36 am
by truckeeboater
With the abundance of helmet-mounted POV paddle videos being posted these days I've gotten to thinking: how cool would it be to be able to see MORE? Then when I saw the Sweet Skills trailer video a while back, I saw it at about 1:28: the camera angle that would (potentially) change how we film our exploits. Check out the vid to see what I mean. I'm wondering if anyone else has experimented with any type of vertical, stern-mounted camera post that would allow the viewer to see not only what the paddler sees, but also the torso and head (and therefor ALL the paddle-strokes) of the paddler. I've thought at length about what would provide the strength, durability and ease of installation (as well as un-installation) of said camera-mount but can't seem to come to a good enough theoretical conclusion that I would feel comfortable with before drilling a hole in my boat.

So... has anyone else out there done this? Any ideas are welcome. Thanks!

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:11 am
by hazardharry
3' above my stern i mounted a mini cam. :D after getting rolled offside while sidesurfing it got jammed in the rocks and i never saw it again. :cry:

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:27 am
by truckeeboater
Sorry to hear that harry. Just out of curiosity 1) how did you mount your camera (pvc pipe, old ski pole, golf driver), 2) did you get to review any footage from this angle before you lost your camera, and if so 3) how did it look? Thanks.

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:09 am
by VTBoater
Jackson makes a pre-fab stern mount for kayaks. I wonder if it could be modified for canoes?

http://jacksonkayak.com/blog/2012/12/13 ... -purchase/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:32 am
by hazardharry
yes i used a lenght of electical pvc 3/4" and put it into the drain hole in the deck plate. secured with a bungy cord. never got to see any video. but it did do ok on my bike. http://youtu.be/25MWEH0GVRA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:55 am
by OC1er
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8a-l_9kD9M

I designed one for an upcoming GC trip that requires no drilling and no tools to remove or attach. It would have to be tinkered with a bit if the hull at the rear grab is not flattish, but I think you could do it with foam. The next design parameter would be a breakaway point, but I'm not sure I'll get that done before I leave. I might just drill a bunch of holes in the mast just above the connection. I'm not sure what the weak point is now - either the screws holding the grab loop to the boat or the hull it self. Hopefully the screws!

Dan P.

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:36 pm
by Bob P
All my later videos (http://youtube.com/ctcboater" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) are done with the camera directly mounted on the rear deck. There's plenty of water context to see, plus my perfect form. :wink:

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:23 pm
by truckeeboater
Thanks for the tips guys! OC1er- your custom PVC set-up looked great! I'd love to hear how it fared on your GC trip. Have you tried rolling with it since you made the video? What was the final out of pocket cost from Lowe's for all that material? Also, how much did the entire rig weigh once fully assembled (camera included)? My only concern is that PVC tends to be a bit stout. I'm hoping to mount this on the stern of my Option, which currently has a webbing grab loop. Wondering if I may be able to swap it for a metal one...
The Jackson one is very similar, but at $100 plus shipping I'm not sure if that one's in the cards. My biggest concern as far as performance goes is definitely drag or interference while rolling. I'd think that a lesser diameter post would produce less drag, but then would also be more likely to wobble or break.

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:44 pm
by Whitewater porn
We make one that is adjustable, made out of strong plastic, and does not require drilling/use of a rescue handle. Been running tests this past spring on the production model. Here's a video that was made to show how tough the Thruster is. http://vimeo.com/user15750100" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:42 pm
by cheajack
From the music in your video I would assume that you don't intend to market your product to any women, fathers of daughters, or paddlers with any middle of the road morals. Admins, I thought this was a family friendly site?

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:00 pm
by kenneth
It's on our radar and we'll be discussing.

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:53 pm
by ian123
If people are allowed to post links to websites that contain videos that have music that contain words that could be offensive, what will be next?

Has anyone been through the video library to make there isn't an F-bomb hidden in there somewhere?

Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:24 am
by Creeker
(do I have your attention uptight folks....don't play the award winning video here if you are overly uptight and can't handle the F bomb [within] that my daughter below has been hearing on the playground since she was in 3rd grade :roll: )

Among the best off the stern canoe images I've seen are with my setup. You have to commit to the shot if you want a good or great shot. yeah there are some 1/4" deck plate holes but big deal. I can weld those closed if I want to sell.

My setup was made in about 60 minutes and a busted boom can be replaced in about 5 minutes with a spare mast taped into the inside gunwale. My system will bend or shear the alum mast. Its health relies on a no flip policy for the most part. If you put a priority on a system that springs or breaks away you're likely gonna have sucky footage.

you can see GoPro 1 stern video in action of my center line @ Oceana: Cross Strokin #1 TIMESTAMP=3:20
https://vimeo.com/54147864


Video Frame Grab from my GoPro 3 with my daughter last week;
It was a bagless class 3 noflip commitment kind of day :wink:

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NOTE THE GoPro Stick
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Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:16 pm
by Sir Adam
Just a reminder of our rules folks... we have rather strict word filters here to keep the site "G" or "PG" rated, but have no problem with folks linking to other boating-related sites or videos that may be a bit more colorful - but we do ask you warn folks first (those at work really appreciate it so they know to mute the volume;) ).

From the Video forum....
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Please post any video's you want to share in this subforum so they're easy for folks to find and view in the future!

A few "rules"
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Re: stern-mount camera

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:49 pm
by avlclimber
Two words: Hockey stick.

Step 1: make a thwart out of a wooden hockey stick.

step 2: place leftover stick between the airbag and hull.

Film away!

I haven't put much together in the way of video from what I've filmed, but here's a simple one from Nantahala falls, tandem. Note the angle. please ignore the foggyness, etc, it was a faulty camera housing. You can see the camera setup briefly in the pics at the end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8YWXFW1jkc


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