L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
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L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
I'm an Outrage paddler, looking at the plastic boats for the first time. My disadvantage is that I'm female, 5 feet O inches with REALLY short legs (26 inch inseam). Outfitting is going to be a challenge regardless of my choice, because my legs are 4-6 inches too short for the outfitting that comes from the factory. Both boats will be considerably heavier than my Outrage. Given this, I'm looking for opinions on which boat is better. Thanks.
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Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
The L'Edge is quite wide, tall and voluminous. I am 6ft and weigh about 180-185 lbs and find the L'Edge at the upper end of boat size for my liking (I prefer relatively small volume boats).
I would think that for someone 5 ft tall it would be too much boat.
The Octane 85 is quite a bit smaller and would be more size appropriate, I think.
As far as the outfitting is concerned, I would see if the manufacturer of the boat you eventually choose can send you one with a saddle that does not have the thigh hooks attached yet, that would allow you to put them exactly in the position that is appropriate for you, without the need to add a ton of foam just to fit. This would obviously require you to glue in the saddle yourself.
Nothing anyone can do about the weicht though, no plastic boat will come close to the Outrage in weight.
Depending on the type of rivers you run, you might also want to check out the Millbrook Blink, that is your only short boat option that is really light as well.
TGG!
I would think that for someone 5 ft tall it would be too much boat.
The Octane 85 is quite a bit smaller and would be more size appropriate, I think.
As far as the outfitting is concerned, I would see if the manufacturer of the boat you eventually choose can send you one with a saddle that does not have the thigh hooks attached yet, that would allow you to put them exactly in the position that is appropriate for you, without the need to add a ton of foam just to fit. This would obviously require you to glue in the saddle yourself.
Nothing anyone can do about the weicht though, no plastic boat will come close to the Outrage in weight.
Depending on the type of rivers you run, you might also want to check out the Millbrook Blink, that is your only short boat option that is really light as well.
TGG!
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Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
My wife (5' 2") got her Octane 85 this summer after having the chance to demo it alongside the Option on the Nantahala. She went from not wanting to run the falls in the Option to styling it in the Octane 85. She has done very little to adjust the outfitting and is happy with the fit. I would just add that at 5' 11" and with long legs, it is too small/tight for me.
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Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
If you are in the weight range (up to 110 lbs easily) you might want to check out the Splash as well...
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I've played with it a bit, and it was amusing and surprisingly stable... and I'm 5'8" and 170 lbs....
Admittedly it's not plastic:)
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I've played with it a bit, and it was amusing and surprisingly stable... and I'm 5'8" and 170 lbs....
Admittedly it's not plastic:)
Keep the C!
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Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
Decide on the boat you like and buy it empty and get Matt Todhunter at Ridge Spirit Outfitting to make you a custom saddle.
Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
I'll echo what Gonzo said. I'm 6', 165 lbs and the L'edge was just too much boat.
Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
If you liked the Outrage, you might want to check into the Esquif Prelude. It has a reputation for lacking primary stability, but so does the Outrage, and what's more, at your size, the Prelude might feel downright stable compared to how it feels for a 6-foot guy. It's also a narrower boat by several inches than the L-Edge, and by over two inches than the Octane 85 and Option. That helps with keeping a vertical paddle if you don't have long arms. What's more, the Prelude is one of the lighter PE boats at 45 pounds outfitted. Try before you buy if you can. Both my wife (5'5") and I (5'11") paddle Preludes and love them.
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Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
a person of your size ... the 85 or the Option would be the ones that I would recommend... the Option is a Displacement Hull and the 85 is a planing hull
SG86
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Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
Millbrook Blink. A great boat light stable fast short just don't deliberately smash it too much. It is a tough boat though
Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
Kaz - how would a Blink be for a larger paddler (220lbs +) in big volume and on flat water between rapids?
I'm not committing to being in the market for a new boat, but I may be thinking ahead a year or so....
I'm not committing to being in the market for a new boat, but I may be thinking ahead a year or so....
Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
Jim, I think you'd be fine in Big water at 220. On the flats it paddles easily, but is definitely no Shacho . Accelerates quickly but reaches top speed in 3 or 4 good strokes...but that said, on flatwater I think it moves along well enough and easily so don't feel worn out by the time you reach the next rapids
I think you'd really enjoy it!
Mikey B
I think you'd really enjoy it!
Mikey B
Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
I would second the recommendation on the Prelude. I came from an Ocoee and found the transition easy. I'm 5'10" and 175 and find it lighter and more stable than people give it credit. And surprisingly stable full of water. I've not paddled the Option or Octane 85.
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Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
Have you considered a C-boat? You're small enough to fit in one with reasonable comfort and it would be easier to handle on and off the water.
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Re: L'edge vs. Blackfly Octane 85
Good suggestions so far.
Glass/composite type hulls are light and would be worth considering. Likewise, a C1 would be light.
Glass/composite type hulls are light and would be worth considering. Likewise, a C1 would be light.
Brian
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