smallest solo whitewater canoes with a seat option

[Paddle Power]

What are the smallest solo canoes for whitewater that have a seat option?

12'10" Esquif Vertige

13'6" Dagger Genesis

14'6" Blue Hole/Evergreen Sunburst

other suggestions?

[pblanc]

What do you mean by a "seat option"? Are you talking about the ability to install a traditional wood-framed seat or kneeling thwart as opposed to a foam pedestal?

If so, virtually any ABS canoe that had regular wood or synthetic gunwales would work. I'm not sure what the smallest one was but the Dagger Phantom was pretty small at 9' 10" overall length.

[Paddle Power]

Yes seat option--the canoe originally came with a traditional wood-framed seat, kneeling thwart, or saddle but not only a saddle

i.e. both a seat and a saddle where available

For example, the Dagger Phantom only option was saddle. Not sure I'd want to paddle a Phantom with a seat.

[Sir Adam]

Most I can think of were saddles and not seats or kneeling thwarts.

Massive Air
Creative Composites Splash

(both of which are still available).

Millbrook Culprit (no longer available) was about 11'; kneeling thwart or saddle IIRC, but Kaz would know for sure.

The Mohawk Maxim was under 10' IIRC

There is an old youth OC1 that John Berry built that I'm sure had a kneeling thwart. I've only seen one for sale, and I expect it is still around (they were looking for $1,400 IIRC for a 197x canoe...).

[Bob P]

A real whitewater seat...

[pblanc]

You could order a 12' 8" Dagger Impulse with a kneeling thwart. Either a kneeling thwart and two thwarts or three thwarts. I don't believe a "seat" was an option but I could be wrong.