Last week 10 of our tribe headed out to the coast and did the NF of the Trask, a river that drains Oregon's rainy coastal range. This is mainly an easy class II+ run, but it has some 3's in there that you have to pay attention to, particularly in an open boat. No hairball boating here, just a sweet run that finishes with a really nice surf wave(unfortunately, no video of that--I was too busy surfing it).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF6H20DhAaE
North Fork of the Trask (Oregon)
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I use a digital camera--a Canon Powershot S2 IS with a 12x zoom lens. It shoots very good video and stills. And you can zoom while shooting video--something a lot of the waterproof video cameras can't do (though some now have that feature). It's also pretty rugged. I've had mine now for 4 years and don't baby it. I shoot in drizzle a lot (but not pouring rain) and the camera is always getting damp from being pulled in and out of its drybox (Pelican 1150), and still the thing just keeps working.
The S2 is an older model. Canon is now making a SX20 IS with 20X lens. But it shoots HD which means bigger files. And its video files are Quicktime format (.MOV) rather than Motion JPEG, an AVI format that I think works really good. I'm happy enough with the quality of the video and stills I'm getting from the older camera that I recently bought a used Canon Powershot S3 IS as a backup for when I finally do drop my S2 in the water. The S3 can take cards with more memory and faster write speeds, so I'd recommend it or an S5 over the S2.
Other keys to good video:
1. Get out of the boat and shoot from solid land
2. Always have the sun at your back
3. Edit. Keep clips short. (I use CyberLink PowerDirector)
4. Edit on a powerful PC or Mac (under-powered computers are a pain to edit on and take a long time to render the finished video)
BTW, the videos are really amazing in their uncompressed state when played on a PC and projected with a digital projector. Good color, sharp, and smooth.
The S2 is an older model. Canon is now making a SX20 IS with 20X lens. But it shoots HD which means bigger files. And its video files are Quicktime format (.MOV) rather than Motion JPEG, an AVI format that I think works really good. I'm happy enough with the quality of the video and stills I'm getting from the older camera that I recently bought a used Canon Powershot S3 IS as a backup for when I finally do drop my S2 in the water. The S3 can take cards with more memory and faster write speeds, so I'd recommend it or an S5 over the S2.
Other keys to good video:
1. Get out of the boat and shoot from solid land
2. Always have the sun at your back
3. Edit. Keep clips short. (I use CyberLink PowerDirector)
4. Edit on a powerful PC or Mac (under-powered computers are a pain to edit on and take a long time to render the finished video)
BTW, the videos are really amazing in their uncompressed state when played on a PC and projected with a digital projector. Good color, sharp, and smooth.
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Milkman, thanks for the info. The reason that I asked is that my camera, a Canon powershot S1 IS started to fail on last years Main Salmon run. I really like the camera and thought that I'd better start looking for a new one. Well, your comments got me thinking about another Canon, but also whether the problem with mine might be a common issue. There is a recall by Canon for what ails my camera - the CCD had started to fail and that is exactly what the recall is about. Hopefully I will be able to get them to fix or replace my camera.
One other question I meant to ask you in my last message - When you went down the Middlefork and Main Salmon in 2008, do your recall the put-in date? I put-in on the Middlefork on July 17 of 2008, with the water level at about 2.8ft. Your level looked a bit lower. I'm just trying to judge levels for possible after permit season runs.
Marc
One other question I meant to ask you in my last message - When you went down the Middlefork and Main Salmon in 2008, do your recall the put-in date? I put-in on the Middlefork on July 17 of 2008, with the water level at about 2.8ft. Your level looked a bit lower. I'm just trying to judge levels for possible after permit season runs.
Marc
We put in on Aug 11 and the level was 1.9 feet. Low, but doable in canoes. It was bony the first two days. We had some rafters in our party and they kept getting stuck and having to be helped off rocks.
I understand the snowpack is low this year in Idaho. Could be tough going in the after permit season.
Good luck getting the S1 fixed. You might keep an eye out on ebay for an S3. Imagine being able to put 4GB or 8GB cards in your camera.
I understand the snowpack is low this year in Idaho. Could be tough going in the after permit season.
Good luck getting the S1 fixed. You might keep an eye out on ebay for an S3. Imagine being able to put 4GB or 8GB cards in your camera.
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Beautiful. We took a trip to Oregon about 4 years ago and try as I might I couldn't convince my wife to stay and have the in-laws ship the kids (and boats!) out.
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Milkman,
So I contacted Canon and they are going to fix my camera, which I assume means they will simply replace it with a new one since it is now about 5 versions behind the times.
As for the Salmon drainage, we are unfortunately in a drought, with north Idaho at only 60% of normal snowpack. Fortunately, a friend has a permit for early July, so I should be good for a fun run in an open canoe.
The Main and Lower Salmon never get too low for a run - I've run the lower Salmon at 2800cfs in October. Still a great run at that level. I know that a lot of the east coast folks are wondering what is wrong with that and my answer is nothing. It is just that in a normal year the Salmon will peak in June at about 70,000cfs. I doubt we will clear 40,000cfs this year. For you folks that don't know it, the Lower Salmon is a 70 mile class 3 run (50 on the Salmon and 20 on the Snake) that usually takes 4 or 5 days. Great sandy beaches along a pool and drop river. Permits are had for simply filling out a registration card at one of the many entry points.
Marc
So I contacted Canon and they are going to fix my camera, which I assume means they will simply replace it with a new one since it is now about 5 versions behind the times.
As for the Salmon drainage, we are unfortunately in a drought, with north Idaho at only 60% of normal snowpack. Fortunately, a friend has a permit for early July, so I should be good for a fun run in an open canoe.
The Main and Lower Salmon never get too low for a run - I've run the lower Salmon at 2800cfs in October. Still a great run at that level. I know that a lot of the east coast folks are wondering what is wrong with that and my answer is nothing. It is just that in a normal year the Salmon will peak in June at about 70,000cfs. I doubt we will clear 40,000cfs this year. For you folks that don't know it, the Lower Salmon is a 70 mile class 3 run (50 on the Salmon and 20 on the Snake) that usually takes 4 or 5 days. Great sandy beaches along a pool and drop river. Permits are had for simply filling out a registration card at one of the many entry points.
Marc
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"For you folks that don't know it, the Lower Salmon is a 70 mile class 3 run (50 on the Salmon and 20 on the Snake) that usually takes 4 or 5 days. Great sandy beaches along a pool and drop river. Permits are had for simply filling out a registration card at one of the many entry points."
That sounds like a great time.... I'm just a bit south in Utah, will have to look into doing that this year.
That sounds like a great time.... I'm just a bit south in Utah, will have to look into doing that this year.
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Milkman, Canon sent back my camera - repaired and at no cost. Even the shipping was paid, both ways. Should be good to go for boating season. Now if we could get some water.
I'm afraid that we are going to have a very poor run-off this year. Although I'm on a Middlefork trip a month earlier than you, the flows are probably going to look like it was mid-August. Pray for snow!
Marc
I'm afraid that we are going to have a very poor run-off this year. Although I'm on a Middlefork trip a month earlier than you, the flows are probably going to look like it was mid-August. Pray for snow!
Marc