The basics. 6'1" 275# I have a 16' Mad River Explorer that I useon flatwater now so i am keeping it. I have put bags in it and ran the Pigeon in Tenn, Sect 9 of the French Broad, parts of the New, Tuckasegee and spent a few weekends at the US Whitewater Center here in Charlotte.
I am a the limit with this boat, its hard to turn let alone boof. So I am looking for a new boat. It is going to be a few years before my daughter is really ready to tandem with me so I think I want a solo boat.
Do i want a:
Probe 13
Blast
Outrage X
Other?
I am leaning towards the Mohawk Probe 13 only because I thought the 14 with the triple setup would leave to much open space.
Help me choose a boat
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Re: Help me choose a boat
Btw I currently use a kayak paddle most of the time because I have gotten used to it on long trips. What benefit would I see from switching to a Canoe paddle.
Re: Help me choose a boat
Single biggest advantage? Not getting harrassed by other open boaters.
I haven't ever paddled with a kayak paddle in an OC, but there is a guy around here that does exclusively. I would guess that you probably get more power per stroke out of a Canoe paddle, because I assume you are using a long touring kayak style paddle with a small blade in order to have enough reach. The downside is that you need that power because you can't get as high a cadence with a C-paddle as a K-paddle. That's my argument for why kayakers, all things being equal, can move faster than canoeists.
If the kayak paddle works for you, keep using it. Try a canoe paddle a little bit to make sure. Me, I love the things I have to do to use a canoe paddle, just like I love that a telemark turn on skis demands more of you than an alpine turn, but it's not more efficient or easier.
Shep
I haven't ever paddled with a kayak paddle in an OC, but there is a guy around here that does exclusively. I would guess that you probably get more power per stroke out of a Canoe paddle, because I assume you are using a long touring kayak style paddle with a small blade in order to have enough reach. The downside is that you need that power because you can't get as high a cadence with a C-paddle as a K-paddle. That's my argument for why kayakers, all things being equal, can move faster than canoeists.
If the kayak paddle works for you, keep using it. Try a canoe paddle a little bit to make sure. Me, I love the things I have to do to use a canoe paddle, just like I love that a telemark turn on skis demands more of you than an alpine turn, but it's not more efficient or easier.
Shep
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Re: Help me choose a boat
The Probe is a great intro solo canoe.
As for the kayak vs canoe paddle, part of the thrill of canoeing is in the skill of using the canoe paddle.
With a more vertical canoe paddle stroke, you can also use the water closer to the canoe so smaller or narrow eddies etc work well.
Plus, a canoe paddle fits in the front side of my car.
As for the kayak vs canoe paddle, part of the thrill of canoeing is in the skill of using the canoe paddle.
With a more vertical canoe paddle stroke, you can also use the water closer to the canoe so smaller or narrow eddies etc work well.
Plus, a canoe paddle fits in the front side of my car.
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I would think that a WW canoe paddle is much more efficient than a kayak paddle.
Especially when doing the strokes we do in a canoe...ie. skull,draw, pry, forward, etc.
Especially when doing the strokes we do in a canoe...ie. skull,draw, pry, forward, etc.
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I guess you guys are gonna really flip when I tell you I use a moded SUP paddle about 25% of the time.
I am headed out this weekend so I will give the single blade some more practice. Not that it matters but the kayak paddle is the same size as most canoe paddles. Its a Aqua-Bound High Angle 210cm. But I do see what you mean with the tight quaters aspect.
Now just to find the right boat.
I am headed out this weekend so I will give the single blade some more practice. Not that it matters but the kayak paddle is the same size as most canoe paddles. Its a Aqua-Bound High Angle 210cm. But I do see what you mean with the tight quaters aspect.
Now just to find the right boat.
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Forgot to mention the T-grip for controlling blade angle.
Can't really do that in strong current with a 2-headed paddle.
SUP paddle Well, has long as you're having fun.
I think a Probe 12 would make you a fine boat at 12'8" and be much more fun.
Can't really do that in strong current with a 2-headed paddle.
SUP paddle Well, has long as you're having fun.
I think a Probe 12 would make you a fine boat at 12'8" and be much more fun.
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