this c1 out fit has the k1 thigh braces still installed, has anyone here ever padled one like this> how is it?
http://www.whitewater.ru/equip/c1/yuru/ ... rsion.html
bizarre c1 outfitting
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Looks like it could work but it looks kind of painful...
but thats a good article. Really well written though 
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LOL you can read russian? what does it say? i just looked at the pictures and noticed the k1 thigh braces were still installed and the seat was cut up instead of removed to make room for the pedestal. have you ever paddled c1 outfitting such as this? how well does it work , can you fit into the thigh braces?
C with K still in it...
I first set up my X as a convertiable, with the K outfitting still in it, modified to be used as a C. It worked out fairly well for me but others were not as trilled with it (i.e.: Sara, Warren, etc.). The pedestal was a bit high for most (7.5") and the knees in way too tight! Very twitchy and tippy! 
What I found was while the swap out was quick (just one strap), the C and K fitting comfortable and the overall ease of use good - I just didn't paddle it as a K. To much fun as a C.
So what to do with it??? I did the logical thing and ripped out the K fitting and it is now a full time C1 with a lower seat and wider leg placement.
I even took it a step further and smashed it (step on it, squashed it, etc.) to make it perform better and increasing the happy factor!!! Nothing better than taking a perfectly good K and modifing it into a really good C1!
I have photos some where as to my cross dressing experiment. If interest let me know and I'll look for them. I also have the K fitting still stuffed in the scrap mini storage box.
Hope this helped! CU PAC
What I found was while the swap out was quick (just one strap), the C and K fitting comfortable and the overall ease of use good - I just didn't paddle it as a K. To much fun as a C.
So what to do with it??? I did the logical thing and ripped out the K fitting and it is now a full time C1 with a lower seat and wider leg placement.
I even took it a step further and smashed it (step on it, squashed it, etc.) to make it perform better and increasing the happy factor!!! Nothing better than taking a perfectly good K and modifing it into a really good C1!
I have photos some where as to my cross dressing experiment. If interest let me know and I'll look for them. I also have the K fitting still stuffed in the scrap mini storage box.
Hope this helped! CU PAC
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Translation...sort of:)
Using Bable fish ( http://world.altavista.com/ )
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To " the versions of the fitting/landing "
Control over the boat to the high degree depends on that how rower tightly in it sits.In this case they have a value many factors, for example, presence of the urged lateral rests, fastening sling and so forth i.e. to unambiguously draw a line between the types of sidushek, it seems me, it is not entirely correct.
For the knee rests there are several versions.For example, it is possible special rest of 50 mm slings to move nearer to the groin, and it is nearer to the elbow itself to make additional stropku so that should not have been to undo it with the shooting.
It is possible to also use a belt/zone (paws belt) - to sling, that goes from one board/edge to another above the elbows in immediate proximity of the stomach.For the sake of fairness it is necessary to say that this is considered as the more dangerous with the shooting, since without undoing, to be selected is sufficiently difficult from under it, but the opening buckle is located near the skirt very deeply; therefore the dangling skirt will interfere with groping and unbuttoning it (by palliative can serve mooring to the loop of the skirt of buckle as light rope, so that the latter otshchelkivalas' automatically during the disruption/separation).Therefore in order to go in this construction/design the serious threshold, where shooting is possible, it stands to be absolutely confident in the absence of panic into the critical moment/torque and the abilities to grope and to otshchelknut' buckle.Well, or to arise in any place from any position in any state.Last observation - it seems to me that standard samosbros here does not approach - sling in it in the absence of a constant high tension is stirred, and predpochtitelna buckle as on spaszhiletakh (as correctly is called construction/design?).
There is also one additional version of fitting/landing.I do not know, is it possible it to name/call that principally differing from those indicated, yes this, however, and it is not important.this is wide partition in the middle through entire point (bulkyuead).This method to me seems simplest.Altered thus ShaveSport KHKHKH is described below.
ShaveSport KHKHKH
The idea of alteration lies in the fact that as the knee rests are used the "wings" of kayachnykh rests already available in boat, and the partition from the rigid/hard foam, which makes it possible on it to sit and which bursts open elbows, is put into the boat.Partition itself bursts open itself between the forward edge of point and the rear stanchion, and also inside the circle/circumference, formed by "wings".It also it is possible to additionally fix from behind annular stropoy, that is attached to the base of rear stanchion.
The height of the middle part (seat) and the profile/airfoil of back are selected individually.Seat here with height about 16 cm. as in other versions, the lower the seat, the steadier the boat, but the less in it it is possible to sit through.Naturally, is preliminary boat must be centered on the smooth water.
Furthermore, for the fixation of rower in the boat is used belt/zone.It is necessary whether to take out kayachnoye seat, it is solved on the course of events - if it only interferes.In this boat it was cut so that it would not press to golenostop and shin.
Skins were glued in the appropriate places - below on the bottom under the elbows (thin/fine), from the lower side of rests (thick with the cut under the thighs), and also from the sides (they were cut on the place).The thick- thick layer of neoprene is stuck above the seat under the shins.
Entire construction/design can be seen in the photographs, it is sufficiently simple.
In principle, well to make the even more lateral rests, which come forward is higher than the point; however, the presence of belt/zone, as it seems me, partially compensates their absence.
P.S.For the sake of fairness one should say that this was primordial made HEDGEHOG, and 4 it already then replaced belt/zone and drove on everything under itself.
Yuri Voronov
September 2002 g.
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To " the versions of the fitting/landing "
Control over the boat to the high degree depends on that how rower tightly in it sits.In this case they have a value many factors, for example, presence of the urged lateral rests, fastening sling and so forth i.e. to unambiguously draw a line between the types of sidushek, it seems me, it is not entirely correct.
For the knee rests there are several versions.For example, it is possible special rest of 50 mm slings to move nearer to the groin, and it is nearer to the elbow itself to make additional stropku so that should not have been to undo it with the shooting.
It is possible to also use a belt/zone (paws belt) - to sling, that goes from one board/edge to another above the elbows in immediate proximity of the stomach.For the sake of fairness it is necessary to say that this is considered as the more dangerous with the shooting, since without undoing, to be selected is sufficiently difficult from under it, but the opening buckle is located near the skirt very deeply; therefore the dangling skirt will interfere with groping and unbuttoning it (by palliative can serve mooring to the loop of the skirt of buckle as light rope, so that the latter otshchelkivalas' automatically during the disruption/separation).Therefore in order to go in this construction/design the serious threshold, where shooting is possible, it stands to be absolutely confident in the absence of panic into the critical moment/torque and the abilities to grope and to otshchelknut' buckle.Well, or to arise in any place from any position in any state.Last observation - it seems to me that standard samosbros here does not approach - sling in it in the absence of a constant high tension is stirred, and predpochtitelna buckle as on spaszhiletakh (as correctly is called construction/design?).
There is also one additional version of fitting/landing.I do not know, is it possible it to name/call that principally differing from those indicated, yes this, however, and it is not important.this is wide partition in the middle through entire point (bulkyuead).This method to me seems simplest.Altered thus ShaveSport KHKHKH is described below.
ShaveSport KHKHKH
The idea of alteration lies in the fact that as the knee rests are used the "wings" of kayachnykh rests already available in boat, and the partition from the rigid/hard foam, which makes it possible on it to sit and which bursts open elbows, is put into the boat.Partition itself bursts open itself between the forward edge of point and the rear stanchion, and also inside the circle/circumference, formed by "wings".It also it is possible to additionally fix from behind annular stropoy, that is attached to the base of rear stanchion.
The height of the middle part (seat) and the profile/airfoil of back are selected individually.Seat here with height about 16 cm. as in other versions, the lower the seat, the steadier the boat, but the less in it it is possible to sit through.Naturally, is preliminary boat must be centered on the smooth water.
Furthermore, for the fixation of rower in the boat is used belt/zone.It is necessary whether to take out kayachnoye seat, it is solved on the course of events - if it only interferes.In this boat it was cut so that it would not press to golenostop and shin.
Skins were glued in the appropriate places - below on the bottom under the elbows (thin/fine), from the lower side of rests (thick with the cut under the thighs), and also from the sides (they were cut on the place).The thick- thick layer of neoprene is stuck above the seat under the shins.
Entire construction/design can be seen in the photographs, it is sufficiently simple.
In principle, well to make the even more lateral rests, which come forward is higher than the point; however, the presence of belt/zone, as it seems me, partially compensates their absence.
P.S.For the sake of fairness one should say that this was primordial made HEDGEHOG, and 4 it already then replaced belt/zone and drove on everything under itself.
Yuri Voronov
September 2002 g.
Keep the C!
Adam
Adam
When I outfitted my perception spin I did that and I love it. I found that I don't even need thigh straps, just a belt, and I have way more control. In my disco I used to carry foam blocks to stuff between the hull and my thighs for the same effect. IMO the perception thigh braces are just right for this duty if your legs are the right size and shape to fit. Here's a pic
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sra ... 85750b.jpg[/img]
Tim
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sra ... 85750b.jpg[/img]
Tim
X pictures (of the K/C set up)
http://www.geocities.com/ata15228/ for the X set up as both C and K. It worked! 
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Yury
Re: bizarre c1 outfitting
Actually this is my boat and my article. I am here in US and some people could see me and my boat at '02 C-Armada.rick wrote:this c1 out fit has the k1 thigh braces still installed, has anyone here ever padled one like this> how is it?
http://www.whitewater.ru/equip/c1/yuru/ ... rsion.html
I like this boat and this outfitting. Currently I am planning to make the same things with Z.
Regards,
Yury