Just picked up my first c1!!

Philip · Post by **Philip** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:50 pm

Picked up a perception amp for very cheap. This will be my first c1 and converson as well. Sbroam(thanks) sent his pics my way from his conversion . I have yet to even paddle a c1 but I have paddled a oc1 for a while. After reading other posts I think this boat will work for me @ 175-180lbs 6ft. There are certainly alot of different outfitting options out there. Feel free to chime in with any thoughts or Ideas from your own expierience. Ihave already ripped out the kayak outfitting. Here are a few pics

Philip

Tiggy · Post by **Tiggy** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:53 pm

Hey it will be alot different from your open boat but stick with it! It will feel slow, squirty, unstable, but you will get used to it and probably freeakin love it! Enjoy riding steep waves and not bailing H20 bro!

Mike W. · Post by **Mike W.** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:45 am

Don't ya just love seeing kayak guts scattered about

Something about it just warms the heart.

Sorry I don't have any photos of the Amp that I had. But it had the Perception saddle, which wasn't that great anyhow. If you're comfortable w/ a lap-belt it'll be easy to set up. If you're not comfortable w/ the lap-belt & you place your bulkhead well, you'll still be able to have fun & roll the boat with simple outfitting.

Make your seat & just set it in the boat. Get in the water & have someone whose judgement you trust eyeball it while you move fore & aft to adjust trim. Then have them measure from the back of the cockpit rim to your back. This is the critical measurement. It is where you will want the back-rest to be.

Here are some photos of my Forplay. It's a real simple set-up w/ no holes added to the boat.
http://new.photos.yahoo.com/wh20crazy/a ... 2349975259

You'll find many oppinions here. Some you'll think are crazy, like mine & others you may agree with. Just fire off any questions & we'll be glad to offer ideas.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:49 am

It Floats!!!!

Just got everthing bolted up today and took it out to a lake. I ventured at least 4' off the shore line

. The water is still way to cold to want to get wet. I need to do some adjusting with the saddle and ankle blocks but it seems like it will work well enough for me to play around in. Thanks for the ideas everyone,and of course this website for great info. Now I need to get to a pool and see if I can roll.

Philip

TomAnon · Post by **TomAnon** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:22 am

I feel your excitement!

Looks good.

Make sure you get the trim set in some calm water. Just eyeballing the pics, I'd say you are about three-six inches to far to the rear. The pedestal will be much further forward then the kayak seat. I could be all wrong here as well. Like it was said earlier, get someone you trust to set the trim. Make sure your seat is adjustable till then. If you cannot find someone set it at different marks and take pictures. Then submit the pics for comments!

Larry Horne · Post by **Larry Horne** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:39 am

the fun is just beginning! that looks cool! but it does look like you'll be sittin back way too far. tomanon is right take pics and let us look!
in all of my conversions my hip bones end up very close to the kayak seat bolt holes. coincidence? maybe....

it takes a while to get it dialed.

Bruce Farrenkopf · Post by **Bruce Farrenkopf** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:00 pm

Hello Phillip,
Congratulation!
The world needs more C1ers

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Make sure you get your knees as wide apart and as low as possible for stability and control. That is key. So get your outfitting dialed to do just that.
You have picked a challenging boat to start as a C1er

. Don't get discouraged. If you have problems with performance, let us know. We'll try to help.
SYOTR,
Bruce

Open Gate · Post by **Open Gate** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:37 pm

Hi !

The back of your foam seat should not extend much further (height)then the rim of your boat. I know it helps keeping you in the boat but it can be very dangeourous to your lower back if you free style with it.

Ex: On a back deck roll, in turbulent water, if the back of your shoulders hits the back deck of your boat, or if your are pressed by curent on your back deck you will find that piece of minicell in a bad position for your lower back.

Play safe and enjoy !

jnorto01 · Post by **jnorto01** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:40 pm

Put some wedge shaped foam blocks in along your center rail to push your knees out to the sides of the boat. As stated in some of the other post,you want your knees spead as wide as possible. The foam wedges will help you stay in position and you fill fit tighter, giving better control. Also think about adding hip blocks. Check out the pictures I posted of my X. It is under the wavesport XXX conversion thread. Have fun. Jim

yarnellboat · Post by **yarnellboat** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:52 pm

FYI,

When I asked around about trim and outfitting, it seemed that the backs of peoples' saddle (to where you can push your tailbone) - measured from the centre of outside rim of the cockpit directly behind the saddle - varied from about 9" (forward enough for too-easy bow stalls) to as little as 5" (if you like stern squirts), all depending on the boat and paddler.

In the neighbourhood of 8" forward of the cockpit rim seemed like a common position for the back of a saddle.

I'm not saying that's where yours should go, but you can just mix in that random tidbit with the other advice you're getting.

Have fun, PY.

p.s. It sounds like you've searched the forum, there is a lot of discussion on various aspects of outfitting, so go search crazy.

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Just picked up my first c1!!

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