Let the planning begin!!!!The release schedule the Spring releases from Jennings Randolph has just been released. The dates are
April 19-20;
May 3-4;
May 17-81 and
May 31 - June 1.
Any Savage River release would not be announced until later in the Spring.
The latest information can be found at:
http://www.nab-wc.usace.army.mil/northBranch.html.
The campground is not scheduled to open until May 1. You can go the following website to check available times: http://www.recreation.gov. Search for dates and ROBERT W CRAIG CPGD in West Virginia.
Hope this is helpful,
Barry Flickinger
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Just in...
per an email asking when the schedule would be up....
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At this time I vote for the last one (May 31/ Jun 1) with the next earlier date (May 17/18) as my second place vote.
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asci
stay away from asci on the weekend, you will get a much better appreciation for the center...
if this is after juneish, I would love to, my current projected time frame back into a boat is late may... but that's like the max time out of the boat the surgeon though i would have... I will be up for anything, but i will have a week shoulder.
cheers
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if this is after juneish, I would love to, my current projected time frame back into a boat is late may... but that's like the max time out of the boat the surgeon though i would have... I will be up for anything, but i will have a week shoulder.
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race boats are so fast, i bet its in the speed wing.
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CURRENT THOUGHTS
We're holding off right now on deciding what's going on...here's why:
The only date that actually works is May 31 / June 1 (Campgrounds not open in April, First weekend in May is Cheat Fest / Hudson River Derby, May 17-18 is the Single Blade Symposium).
While that date WILL work, we are working on another option as well...details to follow hopefully within the next week, if it appears we can pull things off....
While we are hesitant to change venues after so many years, for the past few years folks have talked about going elsewhere, just for a change. what's kept us at the North Branch of the Potomac is dependable class II - III water (we want to keep this event open to everyone, new folks and experts a like).
If it appears we have a second venue to consider I'll be posting a poll so the majority can choose where we go.
Thank you all for your patience!
The only date that actually works is May 31 / June 1 (Campgrounds not open in April, First weekend in May is Cheat Fest / Hudson River Derby, May 17-18 is the Single Blade Symposium).
While that date WILL work, we are working on another option as well...details to follow hopefully within the next week, if it appears we can pull things off....
While we are hesitant to change venues after so many years, for the past few years folks have talked about going elsewhere, just for a change. what's kept us at the North Branch of the Potomac is dependable class II - III water (we want to keep this event open to everyone, new folks and experts a like).
If it appears we have a second venue to consider I'll be posting a poll so the majority can choose where we go.
Thank you all for your patience!
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ASCI option (paddling at the park).....
So I called ASCI (http://www.adventuresportscenter.com) today to see what the deal would be to move the Armada to a non-NBofP release date. Either to get more folks there, provide better control of level(s), to get more paddle time in, or a basic change of scenery. Here is the info…..
River Manager to determine maximum daily course capacity, but they have 80+ private boaters without issue. However, based on my one time experience there I would think 80 boaters would be a tad busy (but is do-able).
The course provides for river running, play spots, squirrelly eddies and squirt spots. It’s basically a man-made loop with a belt to lift you back up to the top.
Supposedly the squirt spot has controls and doesn’t lead to slamming into the bottom or sides – I’ll be an exception to that if we go here. We would still do the c-quirt in a natural setting on Friday but this might give others a chance to try it out.
Site opens at 9AM:
Mid-April: Weekend only
May – Friday - Sunday
Rates:
Cascades
10am - 2pm
~Class 2-3
Pumps 2-3
$15
Deep Creek Rapids
2pm - 6pm
~Class 3-4
Pumps 3-4
$20
All Day $25
For more info contact ASCI @ 301-387-3612 Carrie (reservations) or Matt (director).
Pros – controlled environment / flows at specific times, more opportunities to try boats, someplace different, different levels, chance to paddle at “park”.
Cons – controlled environment / flows at specific times, cost more than the $2 person that NBofP does, someplace different, not a natural setting, no Foxes Pizza.
Deep Creek, MD is at the bottom of the hill and there are plenty of pizza / food places there. We might be able to order and deliver to the site as well.
Thoughts? Paul C.
River Manager to determine maximum daily course capacity, but they have 80+ private boaters without issue. However, based on my one time experience there I would think 80 boaters would be a tad busy (but is do-able).
The course provides for river running, play spots, squirrelly eddies and squirt spots. It’s basically a man-made loop with a belt to lift you back up to the top.
Supposedly the squirt spot has controls and doesn’t lead to slamming into the bottom or sides – I’ll be an exception to that if we go here. We would still do the c-quirt in a natural setting on Friday but this might give others a chance to try it out.
Site opens at 9AM:
Mid-April: Weekend only
May – Friday - Sunday
Rates:
Cascades
10am - 2pm
~Class 2-3
Pumps 2-3
$15
Deep Creek Rapids
2pm - 6pm
~Class 3-4
Pumps 3-4
$20
All Day $25
For more info contact ASCI @ 301-387-3612 Carrie (reservations) or Matt (director).
Pros – controlled environment / flows at specific times, more opportunities to try boats, someplace different, different levels, chance to paddle at “park”.
Cons – controlled environment / flows at specific times, cost more than the $2 person that NBofP does, someplace different, not a natural setting, no Foxes Pizza.
Deep Creek, MD is at the bottom of the hill and there are plenty of pizza / food places there. We might be able to order and deliver to the site as well.
Thoughts? Paul C.
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I just come up for Foxes Pizza I could do that or NBP. The May 31/ June 1 weekend still looks good for me regardless of the venue.
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So, is the question ASCI vs North Branch?
So, is ASCI the other venue option, or is there something else still in the works?
Even if we're on the NB, I figure I'll probably get on ASCI once during the Armada anyway, just to check it out. Not sure I'd want to be based there, though. I'm sure ASCI is a lot more interesting/challenging in terms of play features and push. On the other hand, I have never had to dodge a raft on the North Branch. I've heard WW parks on weekends can be a lot like the Ocoee in terms of raft traffic (and guides' disregard for private craft).
Oh yeah, the May 31/June 1 weekend would be good for me.
Even if we're on the NB, I figure I'll probably get on ASCI once during the Armada anyway, just to check it out. Not sure I'd want to be based there, though. I'm sure ASCI is a lot more interesting/challenging in terms of play features and push. On the other hand, I have never had to dodge a raft on the North Branch. I've heard WW parks on weekends can be a lot like the Ocoee in terms of raft traffic (and guides' disregard for private craft).
Oh yeah, the May 31/June 1 weekend would be good for me.
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It's not decided yet... If we go with ASCI as the primary venue, that opens other dates up... Any time from mid-May on is better for me.TomAnon wrote:US Junior Team Trials 31MAY - 01JUN Golden, CO
I guess I miss another Armada.....
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ASCI is the other venue in question.
I'm going to add a poll - please vote whether you'd like the North Branch or ASCI.
Regardless we're looking at the Cquirt event on Friday, and keeping Sunday open for whatever folks want to do.
As I see it (very similar to PAC) the Pros / Cons are as follows:
North Branch of the Potomac:
Pros:
-We've been going there for years
-Nice class II / II+ run
-Cheap
Cons:
-We've been going there for years
-Limited play spots (e.g. to keep with the group on a few play spots available at a time...definitely plenty of places to play along the way)
ASCI
Pros:
-New place to try out
-Run varies in difficulty depending on flow (my understanding is they ramp up and then down through the day).
-More places for play, and watching others, while staying together
-No shuttle
-Boat swapping MAY be easier
Cons:
-More expensive ($25 vs $2?)
-Non-natural (e.g more technique and play than scenery, though never having been to a man-made course, I'm intrigued by it)
-During parts of the day water may be pushier than some folks are looking for
Either way we'll find good eats I'm sure. And either way I know alot of us go for the comraderie and trying boats.
I'm going to add a poll - please vote whether you'd like the North Branch or ASCI.
Regardless we're looking at the Cquirt event on Friday, and keeping Sunday open for whatever folks want to do.
As I see it (very similar to PAC) the Pros / Cons are as follows:
North Branch of the Potomac:
Pros:
-We've been going there for years
-Nice class II / II+ run
-Cheap
Cons:
-We've been going there for years
-Limited play spots (e.g. to keep with the group on a few play spots available at a time...definitely plenty of places to play along the way)
ASCI
Pros:
-New place to try out
-Run varies in difficulty depending on flow (my understanding is they ramp up and then down through the day).
-More places for play, and watching others, while staying together
-No shuttle
-Boat swapping MAY be easier
Cons:
-More expensive ($25 vs $2?)
-Non-natural (e.g more technique and play than scenery, though never having been to a man-made course, I'm intrigued by it)
-During parts of the day water may be pushier than some folks are looking for
Either way we'll find good eats I'm sure. And either way I know alot of us go for the comraderie and trying boats.