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Love the video. :D
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the great gonzo wrote:
yarnellboat wrote:Nice!

How heavy are Big Al (Zoom) and Great Gonzo (Prelude)?

What boat is PAC in?

Nice background chatter PAC.

Thanks, PY.
Big Al weighs ~ 220 lbs. Probably slightly over the recommended weight range for the Wooz :wink: ...
I weigh ~185 lbs, but I know guys around 200lbs who paddle a Prelude.
PAC is in a Finkenmeister. His live commentary is always priceless.

TGG!
Great vid!

I think you might have hurt Al's feelings - he professes to weigh in closer to 208...

I'm 220# and have spent some time in the Wooz (5 minutes) and the Prelude (15 minutes) - I could not stay in the Wooz longer as it was too tippy for my taste. The Prelude was twitchy but I felt I could get used to it, however, for me it was too slow (couldn't get upstream).
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What was the level guys?
I went raftin' once. I think it was in Ohio.

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we dont need no stinkin levels

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Fleck,
Looked low... surprised Louie wasnt there
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Yep - on the low-ish side 5'5" - 5'6".
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LB,

Ha Ha!

PAC,

Looks good!

Might be a good level for my PFD. I get mixed feedback on that run. Some say at (I think) 6.2, sneaks open. I think I'd rather have less push. Most feedback I get is that LBS is easier than UY. Looks like some pools below the big drops.

On another note, what is Gonzo using for pogies? Regular kayak pogies? Are they moded or anything? I've been using gloves but pogies are much warmer. I've been thinking about rigging something. However, when you switch hands it makes it tough. We'll leave that for another topic.
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Fleckbass - 6ish provides some sneaks, is not too pushy and the lower drop of Big Splat is then PAC-do-able. :wink: I think overall the lower levels are easier with it being run able down to 5'2"- even if others say 5'4" is the lower limit!
7ish its starts getting fairly pushy and takes more plan ahead paddling. While 8+ is time for PAC to go run something else. :o But others love it at that level! To each their own! 8)
Overall the BS is more straight forward with larger pools below the bigger drops than the UY. It’s easier to scout and doesn't have the blind drops either. Often seen as a good step up in getting ready for the UY its one of my favorite because of the lack of crowds.
A fellow boater said it was at 5'6" on Sat and everyone else was on the UY - a perfect sunny warm day for a run on it, and I missed it! :(

I think Gonzo using poggies for canoeing but I think they have longer cuffs than the pair I have. But I like gloves better for the finger dexterity for push'n off rocks and having to grab items. But he knows more about cold water paddling than I do so he'll have to chime in!
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"WOOZ"

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Dat B me! 8)
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Who said 220?

And i do like WOOZ instead of .....oh I get it...a ZOOM upsside down. Yep, that's me ,in my boat, and I look good in it .......when I'm temporarily upright.

BTW,
just weighed myself this morning and I AM 207. Take me to a carney and I'll always win a prize when the age and weight guesser tries his magic.

Big Al

Now about outfitting the FLY and the FINK....Maybe this weekend at the Slip Clinic, PAC? Should I bring tools, glue, and such? Or, just something hoppy, as usual, and watch you do YOUR magic?
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Big Al wrote:Who said 220?

And i do like WOOZ instead of .....oh I get it...a ZOOM upsside down. Yep, that's me ,in my boat, and I look good in it .......when I'm temporarily upright.

BTW,
just weighed myself this morning and I AM 207. Take me to a carney and I'll always win a prize when the age and weight guesser tries his magic.

Big Al

Now about outfitting the FLY and the FINK....Maybe this weekend at the Slip Clinic, PAC? Should I bring tools, glue, and such? Or, just something hoppy, as usual, and watch you do YOUR magic?
Big Al, be careful with your weight loss...if it goes much further, I'll have to request that the admin's change your user name to 'little al' :lol: :lol: !!!

Fleckbass, the Pogies I am using are single blade specific ones that I got from Mountain Surf. They are called Creek Mitts. Not sure if they are still/again available.

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+1 on Creek Mitts - short cuff, easy on and off.
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Gonzo. -

Of. all people, u shld know.............it's not the weight that counts...........

It's the angle of the dangle.


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Al, I had no idea the the angle was what counts... :o ... back where I am from it's something else, but if you say so... :lol: ...

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