Encore Vintage ?

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:08 pm

Hey Encore fans, in my search for a used OC-1 I found an older pink Encore in pretty nice shape. Anyone recall what year Dagger made the pink boats? We're trying to come up with a fair price.

Mr.DeadLegs · Post by **Mr.DeadLegs** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:16 pm

I've got a pink one, hopefully not for long. Depending on condition somewhere between 400-600 with saddle not including bags.

Pink is a classic, there is no other like it. Holds up well too

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:36 pm

If it has a serial number tag on. it the last two number are the year it was built. I talked the bosses into makein a second run of them years after they discontinued the model but the second run was never made in Pink.

Stingray · Post by **Stingray** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:26 pm

I have a pink one, w/ 4 sm cold cracks, three are patch and one was so small the repair guy missed it. Boat be stored in crawl space for 8 years. Really hadn't been use that much. Some marks, but bottom of hull has alot of life in her. Gunwales should be replaced next year, $300 with hugh saddle, hip blocks, lots of foam in the boat. I'll throw in some vinyl air bags.

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:47 pm

Thanks to all. I'm still curious what year these pink boats were made. Hey Stingray, any chance of sending some photo's to my email? dan_lablanc@pepperidgefarm.com

dawgpaddle · Post by **dawgpaddle** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:57 am

Danny wrote:Thanks to all. I'm still curious what year these pink boats were made. Hey Stingray, any chance of sending some photo's to my email? dan_lablanc@pepperidgefarm.com

Danny:

I bought mine in 1991, great Encore pink (officially "fuschia") with wood gunwales (since re-done), blue outfitting (saddle, thigh straps, air bags). Darn good looking boat, darn good paddling boat. The pink is now faded but still an instant eyecatcher among those who were paddling back then!! Be great to get a photo if we could ever get a few of them together sometime!!

First one I ever saw was owned by Buffalo Outdoor Center owner Mike Mills, who still has (and paddles his). He might have some info:

http://www.buffaloriver.com/contact.aspx

pblanc · Post by **pblanc** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:33 pm

Mine is a 1990.

Danny · Post by **Danny** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:04 am

Sounds like 1990 ish is a good bet. Anyone have experience with wood trim? My guess is that it requires maintanence and at some point, replacement. Pain? EZ?

Mr.DeadLegs · Post by **Mr.DeadLegs** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:28 am

Don't store wood outside if possible and at least not in contact with ground. Other than that a light sanding to remove any rough spots and a little water sealer every once and a while and you are good to go. I like wood gunnels.

pblanc · Post by **pblanc** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:51 pm

My "Pepto-pink" Encore has wood gunwales and I have other whitewater and flatwater boats with wood gunwales. The Encore's gunwales required some serious sanding and oiling to get them looking good again, but they are quite sound.

In the case of Dagger, I believe the wood gunwales were a little lighter than the vinyl-coated aluminum ones. They certainly look better. Another advantage is that they can't fill with water. Those rectangular aluminum gunwales are open at the ends and when you dump or roll, water enters the gunwales at both ends and some of it stays behind when you lift the boat to empty it. When you roll, there are at least several pounds of water to lift up in the gunwales.

They do require some maintenance, especially on white water boats and they get nicked up some. If you stay on top of them, all that is usually needed is sanding and applying some penetrating oil like Watco every few trips.