some beginner questions

darreng · Post by **darreng** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:54 am

I apologize if these have already been answered but:

1) Do you think that a Dagger Id would make a nice C1?

2) Is the Dagger pedestal worth using for a conversion or should I just convert from scratch?

Thanks,

Darren

the great gonzo · Post by **the great gonzo** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 2:44 am

Darren,

1) I am sure that the Dagger ID makes a good conversion, but the real quesion is, is it the right boat for you? What are you mainly interested in ? River running? Creeking? Playboating? How much do you weigh? What is your previous paddling experience?
Depending in this the ID may or may not be a good boat for the paddling you intend to do.

2) I have a Dagger Atom with a Dagger console and pedestal. It is pretty good setup, but I personally prefer a foam bulkhead setup.
It mainly boils down to personal preference.

hope this helps a little.

martin

Jan_dettmer · Post by **Jan_dettmer** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:08 am

Hi Darren,

I like foam better since it is lighter. The Dagger seat is quite heavy.
But that is also personal preference.

Jan

chuck naill · Post by **chuck naill** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 11:33 am

I used a dagger pedital, available from kayakoutfitting.com for $55 plus shipping. WHile it is heavier than foam, it provides many advantage when outfitting a safe boat for river running. I adds some rigidity to the bottom, provides a place to add thigh straps, throw rope, padding, attachment to mini cell walls, etc. For what it is worth the issue about this being a good conversion centers around what you want to do with this boat, i.e play, riverrunning and your size. If you setting too low in the stern or bow it will effect the handling of the boat in bigger water and not be as responsive. Comfort is important on long trips for me and the pedistal allowed me to add enough foam to help my legs from going numb too soon.

Hope this helps,
Chuck/Tennessee

darreng · Post by **darreng** » Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:23 pm

I should have provided more info.

I started paddling C1 last spring, and started in a Riot Slice (hades of a way to learn). I'm 6ft, 175 lbs, have a solid roll and fairly good skills (for a beginner). Out here in wyoming, the rivers may only be up for a few weeks, so I want a boat that will play in low water, but also be OK for river running.

The plastic on the Dagger boats seems fairly thin, so the pedastal might provide some support. And, the boat is already so light that a little more weight shouldn't matter.

thanks for your responses.

Darren