Aquabound Edge paddle
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Aquabound Edge paddle
There has been a decent amount of talk on C-boats lately in regards to paddles... and I have been talkin a few friends about the AB Edge lately, as they have been having shoulder problems paddling w/ stiffer paddles... so I figured I'd put a post up letting people know about the goodness from Aquabound's Carbon Edge.
The Edge was the first 'performance' paddle that I bought. I have yet to break one...and its not because of how clean I have been paddling in the past... I think its cuz the shaft has give, and thats why it doesnt snap. It's a light paddle, at $90...cheapest on the market. It's also really easy on the shoulder - for longevity. So if you are having shoulder problems, or worry about having shoulder problems - you should really look into AB's canoe paddle.
AB also makes a breakdown Edge @ $140 (best breakdown on the market IMO). I know I'm incredibly happy with both of mine.
PS - If you are on the fence about getting one - Aqua-bound customer service is second to none. I have yet to run into another WW company with better customer service.
The Edge was the first 'performance' paddle that I bought. I have yet to break one...and its not because of how clean I have been paddling in the past... I think its cuz the shaft has give, and thats why it doesnt snap. It's a light paddle, at $90...cheapest on the market. It's also really easy on the shoulder - for longevity. So if you are having shoulder problems, or worry about having shoulder problems - you should really look into AB's canoe paddle.
AB also makes a breakdown Edge @ $140 (best breakdown on the market IMO). I know I'm incredibly happy with both of mine.
PS - If you are on the fence about getting one - Aqua-bound customer service is second to none. I have yet to run into another WW company with better customer service.
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http://www.cboats.net/cforum/viewtopic.php?t=7964715DougB wrote: but they need to do something about that whimpy T grip!
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Doug - You got a great point. It would be nice to have custom T-grips... or like if they had 3 different designs, of which you could pick one. I think there are some logistical issues with that since they deal with retailers.
Personally, I like the T-grip on it. It's small so it allows me to use finesse much easier than a big block of a T-grip.
Power on the top hand should come from your palm. Essentially all you need is Palm, thumb and pinky. Why do I know this?...Stateline Falls caused me to paddle with just my palm, thumb and pinky for about a month lol
Doug, you raise a very good question for me... and perhaps more people can jump in on this.... Why is it people like Big T-grips?
Personally, I like the T-grip on it. It's small so it allows me to use finesse much easier than a big block of a T-grip.
Power on the top hand should come from your palm. Essentially all you need is Palm, thumb and pinky. Why do I know this?...Stateline Falls caused me to paddle with just my palm, thumb and pinky for about a month lol
Doug, you raise a very good question for me... and perhaps more people can jump in on this.... Why is it people like Big T-grips?
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yup - that's why they switched to the Plastic blades. They stopped making the fiber glass ones last year i believe. Good to hear your using them...
i agree - I dont have $200-400 to dump on a paddle either. I love that you can paddle an edge without being terrified of what happens if they actually broke
i agree - I dont have $200-400 to dump on a paddle either. I love that you can paddle an edge without being terrified of what happens if they actually broke
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For the price point I'm sure they're very good, but I'd be loath to use a nylon paddle...
Properly pressure moulded glass or carbon-kevlar is just so much better (Werner, Galasport, Robson, Lightning, even [though i'm not a fan] Ophion) for not much more money;
Hollowform Pre-Preg carbon (Vertical Element, double dutch, vadja, Raab or some galasport) are also superior blades, but a little more fragile (apart from the VE blades which are designed and made by an ex-c1 world champion and have been tested extensively for creeking and big water expedition paddling now).
And of course, Wooden paddles (be they carved, or laminated) are the real deal... Not that a Mitchell or Jimistyk can compete with AB on price, though it could thrash it for durablity.
Properly pressure moulded glass or carbon-kevlar is just so much better (Werner, Galasport, Robson, Lightning, even [though i'm not a fan] Ophion) for not much more money;
Hollowform Pre-Preg carbon (Vertical Element, double dutch, vadja, Raab or some galasport) are also superior blades, but a little more fragile (apart from the VE blades which are designed and made by an ex-c1 world champion and have been tested extensively for creeking and big water expedition paddling now).
And of course, Wooden paddles (be they carved, or laminated) are the real deal... Not that a Mitchell or Jimistyk can compete with AB on price, though it could thrash it for durablity.
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just a matter of what you want...
If a flimsy paddle feels fine, them my all means buys two or three. I borrowed one as a spare, and wasn't at all thrilled about it...but it certainly did beat not having a paddle at all.
However if price was my main concern, I'd look at a Carlisle paddle. They certainly have a better feel than the AB's do, are less flimsy, with some give for the shoulder, and are way more durable than most any paddle. Plus you can outfit a family of four, for the price of one AB. (Some at an especially good price - as they can be found all over commercially run rivers for free).
If a flimsy paddle feels fine, them my all means buys two or three. I borrowed one as a spare, and wasn't at all thrilled about it...but it certainly did beat not having a paddle at all.
However if price was my main concern, I'd look at a Carlisle paddle. They certainly have a better feel than the AB's do, are less flimsy, with some give for the shoulder, and are way more durable than most any paddle. Plus you can outfit a family of four, for the price of one AB. (Some at an especially good price - as they can be found all over commercially run rivers for free).
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phil - your talking about the ones with the metal shaft right?
when I had my AB ripped out of my hand in the Room of Doom at UG last year.... I went creeking shortly after - and had to result to using a '52 inch Carlisle paddle...on 2 Class V+ first OC1 descents... that was scary - those blades are rather small...I don't recommend paddling class V with one lol - im sure u have had similar experience at some point and time
The only time I really notice the 'noodleness' of the Edge is when I'm paddling in very heavy current (see Upper Gauley) or when I'm paddling against the current, and trying to change the direction of my boat... aka going down stream, then turning the boat upstream in current, and changing momentum of boat from downstream to upstream(ferry)...and even then, it still performs, but you can just definitely feel the flex...
I like how light they are, without having the stiffness of a Werner Bandit. Those things are rough on the shoulder
when I had my AB ripped out of my hand in the Room of Doom at UG last year.... I went creeking shortly after - and had to result to using a '52 inch Carlisle paddle...on 2 Class V+ first OC1 descents... that was scary - those blades are rather small...I don't recommend paddling class V with one lol - im sure u have had similar experience at some point and time
The only time I really notice the 'noodleness' of the Edge is when I'm paddling in very heavy current (see Upper Gauley) or when I'm paddling against the current, and trying to change the direction of my boat... aka going down stream, then turning the boat upstream in current, and changing momentum of boat from downstream to upstream(ferry)...and even then, it still performs, but you can just definitely feel the flex...
I like how light they are, without having the stiffness of a Werner Bandit. Those things are rough on the shoulder
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I would say the Carbon Bandit is rough on the shoulders and everything else. Any carbon paddle without a foam/wood core is just way to stiff for my tastes. The fiberglass Bandit, and any other fiberglass Werner stick, I find to have a perfect flex. Just enough to be a little easy on you but not so much you sacrifice feel. Not to mention they are built like pry bars.FullGnarlzOC wrote:[...] without having the stiffness of a Werner Bandit. Those things are rough on the shoulder
That being said, I paddle with a wood core, carbon shaft Bailey Stick....
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"I'm gonna run this one river left I think.... So far river left, that I'm gonna be on the bank. With my boat on my shoulder."