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SkeeterGuy86
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Re: What do you expect...

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he has the exact same bags that i have ... just from the looks of it there are not as many patches
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ian123 wrote:I ve got a beef with gaia's "lifetime guarantee"... I bought a pair and one got a couple of holes within a couple months of use . Don't ask me know, I was careful. I called the company and was informed that the warrantee only covers leaks from delimitation but not punctures. Truthfully, this is fair for a set of airbags... they re always going to be punctured at some point... but the airbags can't delaminate because they aren't laminated. It's deliberately misleading, if you ask me.

A couple of things that I do like about them is that the material stretches a little and they seem to fit the nooks and crannies in taureas, sflys, l'edges, etc really well. The other good thing is that, when they do get a hole the plastically material dries almost instantly and can be reliably patched with duct tape. They re relatively cheap too.
actually, airbags CAN delaminate- it happens at the seams, the glue sometimes doesn't hold. also, 2-layer bags, like mohawks, are notorious for having the top layer come apart. basically, what gaia is saying is that if the bag fails because of a weak spot, or the seams don't hold, they'll replace it- that's a VERY good warranty on an airbag. they just won't if it gets punctured.


I get that SOME bags can delaminate... but they have to to be made up of at least two layers glued together... that's what a laminate is... some bags (such as mohawk, I think) are a nylon-PVC... if these layers come apart, THAT is delamination. The Gaia bags are made of one single layer of rubbery material... it's not a laminate so it can't de-laminate. Blowing a seam isn't the same thing.
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Re: What do you expect...

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gaia has 2 differenttypes of float bags. The Everlast ones are made from a thick urethane foil. They cannot delaminate.
The standard ones are made with a PVC coated nylon fabric, and they can delaminate.

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right. I have the everlast ones. thanks Gonzo
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Does anyone have an old Dagger Airbag and can check who is the manufacturer of the valves? That would be great...

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The airbags that we have available - just aren't good enough. I go through more airbags than any other piece of equipment by far.

I'd take airbags that would weigh more - for ones that don't get holes
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I already have a better material that will work and am looking for suitable valves. No 90° knee bent that breaks, no caps falling off, no...
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