CBoats.net - C1 B1!
Check out
C-Forum Discussion of all things WhiteWater Canoe related
It is currently Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:20 am

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Tandem communication
PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:39 pm 
Offline
C Maven
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:31 am
Posts: 1303
Location: York, PA
From my experience - communication in a tandem is among the most important aspects of what you do. Direct, clear and concise. It doesn't matter how good each of you are if you aren't effectively working as a team to accomplish the same goal. Marie and I recently made a tandem video trying to highlight tandem communication and figured we'd share it here. Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCss3G2I75M

_________________
http://www.gnarlzoutdoors.com
Silverbirch Canoes - North American Distributor


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tandem communication
PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:56 pm 
Offline
C Maven

Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:13 pm
Posts: 1091
Location: Portland, Oregon
Excellent video on tandem communication showing lots of communication and positive reinforcement. One of the most important pieces of advice I ever received on tandem paddling was to always realize that no matter what happens, your partner is literally in the same boat as you and therefore is trying their best just like your are. So if a wrong line is chosen, a move not made, or a flip happens, it's not a matter of telling your partner what he or she could have done better, but instead to ask what the two of you as a team could have done better. And when a good move is made by the team, praise on both sides is in order.

There can also be a lot of good wordless communication too, particularly if your bow partner is comfortable choosing the most immediate lines. Typically, I'm in the stern and my wife is in the bow. We discuss or point with paddles the overall line we want to take, and then as we execute, I have focus both on what she is doing and the overall rapid, following and supporting her draws and cross draws as we work our way down a rapid.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tandem communication
PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:52 pm 
Offline
Pain Boater
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:44 pm
Posts: 78
Location: Washington
In tandem paddling, I think the bow paddler is the boss and the stern paddler is obligated to interpret his or her strokes and act accordingly. The job of the stern is to power the canoe and keep it on course; the job of the bow is to read water and initiate moves.
Bill


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tandem communication
PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:42 pm 
Offline
CBoats Addict

Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:21 am
Posts: 480
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
milkman wrote:
Excellent video . . .

I agree -- thanks for sharing this!

Good points, on the partnership of tandem boaters, Mark and Bill. It's an issue that I'm sure all tandem teams, even ad-hoc 'today-only' teams have to deal with.

I've thought of it this way -- The broad goals are defined in discussion; the stern paddler then sets the overall course, and the bow partner fine-tunes it as they go along.

(Something like that!)

Rick

_________________
C'est l'aviron. . . !


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tandem communication
PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:45 am 
Offline
CBoats Addict

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:06 am
Posts: 480
Location: Milton,Mass
One important point is the stern paddler cannot always hear what the bow paddler says leaving the stern paddler to guess/ interpret what's coming from the bow. A good team will know what the other partner wants/ expects out of a given manouver and can correct for it. Practice practice practice


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Tandem communication
PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:13 pm 
Offline
C Maven

Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:13 pm
Posts: 1091
Location: Portland, Oregon
My wife and I also practice something we call the stern's right of veto. This is based on the fact that the stern can see what the entire boat is doing. This is especially important when you're talking a 16' or 17' loaded tandem. How this works is if the bow paddler begins to make a maneuver and from the stern's perspective a different maneuver is better or easier, the stern paddler calls this maneuver out to the bow and begins to initiate it. The bow paddler then follows with the appropriate strokes.

I thought the fullgnarlz video was a good example of how tandem paddling is handled when the stern paddler is more experienced, reads water better, or simply knows the river better.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 6 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
CBoats.net is managed by Adam Pearsall and Kenneth Sarzynski with graphic artwork by Sara Pearsall
© 2017 by CBoats.net - all rights reserved. Materials found on this website can only be used for personal use.