Introducing the Esquif L'edge

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:56 am

No think about it for a minute, If the decks are cut at the right angle where the plastic changes from Vertical to Horzinal and then you add 3/4" of wood gunnel on the inside and out side when you placed the deck back in it original place it will total cover the inside gunnel. I never liked the deck plates on the Ocoee so I would always take a sheet of the plastic we molded the deck plate out of and cut it so it fit just like what I am talkin about doin with the new boat.

Craig Smerda · Post by **Craig Smerda** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:26 am

kaz wrote:Can we somehow stop this thread when it gets to 10,000?
JKaz

When the thread hits 10K I figure I'll announce the full details of my most elaborate and cruel April Fool's joke EVER!!!

(insert evil laughter)

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whoops!

Crud... guess I'll have to delete the entire thread now...

Craig Smerda · Post by **Craig Smerda** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:29 am

Louie wrote:No think about it for a minute, If the decks are cut at the right angle where the plastic changes from Vertical to Horzinal and then you add 3/4" of wood gunnel on the inside and out side when you placed the deck back in it original place it will total cover the inside gunnel. I never liked the deck plates on the Ocoee so I would always take a sheet of the plastic we molded the deck plate out of and cut it so it fit just like what I am talkin about doin with the new boat.

Deck plates typically get mounted to the inwale on a wood gunneled boat. Looks better that way too.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:42 pm

Isn't that what I just said ? I think I would like to go with contrasting colors between deck plates and hull. Hunter Green hull and dog dick red deck plates. I will secure the deck plates down with "BRASS" #6 x 5/16 wood screws with brass groumenet type washers into pre drill holes. I haven't quite figured out what I am goin to use for a water break on the deck plate, but the two step water break on the Teaureau deck has spoiled me and I will want to try and get the new boat as close to as dry as the Teaureau is.

fez · Post by **fez** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:14 pm

by the way - is there any chance to get the Taureau in plastic with the new molding machine ?

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:35 pm

The Teaureau is in Plastic the same type as what the new boat will be made out of the difference is that the Teaureau uses a sheet of the matererial that is heated in an oven like you use for Roylex sheets and then the heated sheet is vacuum formed over a mold. The Roto molded boats plastic is in grandular form like resien beads and is put inside a mold heated and spun while being rocked back and forthe at a 26 degree angle. Because you put grandular bead in the mold you can mix color and by placing diffent color bead in the mold you can get multi color boats and you can use your hand to make designs in the unheated beads that will more or less keep that design shape during the cookin process.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:38 pm

The other way to make plastic boats is injected molded (Preijon) but the machine to do this is a lot more complacted and it would be a pain in the butt to get multi colors, if it is possibel at all. My only experience with injected moldin has nuthin to do with boats but rather car parts.

Craig Smerda · Post by **Craig Smerda** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:18 pm

Louie wrote:I will want to try and get the new boat as close to as dry as the Teaureau is.

Well... if you want the dryest version in my opinion... just get the fully decked one Mike. Option #2... order the fully gunneled version and screw the full sized plates right on without cutting them down. Option #3... find a drier line.

This past weekend I was taking the wettest direct lines I could... it really is a dry boat man! Remember... this is a full volume traditional canoe.

Yukon · Post by **Yukon** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:23 pm

Dog dick Red?? Not sure bout paddling width ya'll. I have 24 huskies and I try not to see that color if I dont have to.
And it aint a pretty shade of red.

Green and Red sounds like a friggin christmas tree, maybe that is a boat for the north since I am so close to Santa Claus

Craig Smerda · Post by **Craig Smerda** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:01 pm

o.k. folks... let's try to keep this clean... and civil.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:05 pm

That is what I said I was goin to do, and then start cuttin them down if I want to. On what river were you on that you were lookin for the wetest line? We have a upper Yough, Gauley, New river trip comin up at the end of the month, might be a little more water over in the mountains than in your neck of the woods or city, what ever the case may be.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:08 pm

Well in a few year in the sun that red kinda fades into a pink color, you can add your favorite descriptive adjetive in front of pink, I know what mine is.

Craig Smerda · Post by **Craig Smerda** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:38 pm

Louie wrote:That is what I said I was goin to do, and then start cuttin them down if I want to. On what river were you on that you were lookin for the wetest line? We have a upper Yough, Gauley, New river trip comin up at the end of the month, might be a little more water over in the mountains than in your neck of the woods or city, what ever the case may be.

I ran the Tsangpo Mike... didn't you hear?

One thing to consider... once again... is that we'll be able to adjust the height of the gunnels up and down about 1-1/2" for shorter and taller folks... well... I guess we can only go down to that lowest height once.

Keep in mind... the lower the overall height of the boat the easier it is to roll... but the wetter it can be as well. For shorter and lighter paddlers I'll speculate that a 1" lowering of the gunnels will be adequate on the production boat.

jscottl67 · Post by **jscottl67** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:47 pm

I think you could lower the gunnels 4" and the boat would still be dry.

Craig Smerda · Post by **Craig Smerda** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:59 pm

jscottl67 wrote:I think you could lower the gunnels 4" and the boat would still be dry.

It'd sure look funny

Wayne Dickert had one of the coolest chopped down and pulled in R-light Ocoee's I've ever seen... wonder what ever happened to that boat. It was a wet boat... but he still kicked butt in it.