why do so many canoers have a giant chip on the shoulder?

[FullGnarlzOC]

i was thinkin about the whole kayak thing...and while i MIGHT do it, i wont be able to sleep without sayin this for the kids out there...

Kayaking. It's like Meth. Don't try it. Not even once.

lol.

[TheKrikkitWars]

Cricket - you can do all those things and be an athlete still...college teaches you such things. Point being... if "someone" played all sorts of sports competivily, at a relatively high level - such things would transition over into the boating world... Things like weight control, strength, conditioning, and motor skills.

I'm at uni now and the lifestyle I have is not compatable with atheticism... I used to hang out (and weight train) with the GB world class development team, and none of them would be close competitive if they didn't look after themselves properly, they sure as hades couldn't get away with a crate a day...

[oopsiflipped]

gosh ed, first you say you can , and now you say you won't. please, pretty, pretty, pretty please with 2 headed kittens on top, show us how easy kayaking is. i'll even drive the 7 hrs to friendsville just to watch you eat some crow. and while your mouth is writing checks, you've still got plenty of time to register for the green race this year. the $120 ping pong paddle says volumes, really. again consider taking up a one man crocheting torch. show those knitters your mighty hook! think of all those poor, unenlightened people out there with two needles scoffing at your one hook. i mean, anyone can knit, but it takes a megaballed supee stud to crochet. and please get some video of you at the put-in slide, moshier, and maybe running right of the island on raquette.

did anyone else watch josh's link to internet forum behavior? super funny.

and yes, jeremy, very, very dry and i'm not that into driving 5 or 6 hrs roundtrip to boat, so picking on morons will have to keep me entertained til it starts raining.

and louie, dear sweet, little louie, we all know i started c1ing because open boats have big freakin holes in the top that fill up with water. which as it turns out, really sucks on big volume snowmelt, or anywhere else for that matter. besides, i thought the only reason to paddle open boat is because you are get old, get bad knees, and need an excuse for swimming all the time.

[jscottl67]

Ummm, you aren't ready for the Green Race.

But if you're going to run the Green Narrows, the race day will be your best bet. There will be plenty of safety set there, so you probably won't die when you screw up big time and enough people there to carry your carcass out either way. And don't worry, sure there will be LOTS of video footage of the run.

[french erick]

As yarnellboat signs all his posts: Free your heels, Open your boat

Now you chose to be like that, and to be as good as our skier/yaker friends you need to work harder. Is that a chip on the shoulder? Could be.
My chosen steed is mine to play with
I do want to prove to skiers (coz in an open I ain't proving very much yet...to anyone, even myself) that I can do lots despite what some would call a design fault. I see it as the appealling trait...I love those lunged curves because they're just so cool. Equally, a fast snappy eddy turn in a canoe look so amazing when done by the very best.

I telerode amongst skiers for ever as I'm still the only one in the bunch, I ride the same lines, take the same jumps...I just know when to say "I can't really do that".
At the moment I would be delighted to paddle with buttboater even if they were slagging me off...it would be a change from being alone all the time.

[phreon]

Pride cometh before the fall, brother.

Doug

[Craig Smerda]

Edit: Craig I hate you so very much right now, I'm viewing this on a smartphone and your endless two-faced kitten is making it a right ballache!

[RodeoClown]

This could be a thread of it's own, but I'm to the point where I feel like it deserves a response.

admiting we should be allowed on whitewater ain't going to help you get Lelands or Suttons seat on the AW (american kayaker)

Actually Sutton isn't on the board anymore. You must mean the current pres, Don Kinser



or do you mean the vice president- Norwood Scott?


What about Charlie?


Leland? Might have been a long time ago, but I'm sure he's still got the skills, and still like canoes.


If anything, I'd say the AW board is skewed toward the single bladers. As far as the journal, here are a few links...

http://americanwhitewater.org/content/J ... year/2009/
http://americanwhitewater.org/content/J ... year/2008/
http://americanwhitewater.org/content/J ... year/2006/

Sorry to confuse you with facts from the other side of the arguement, I'm just bringing this up because I really fail to see the evidence of the anti-canoe agenda of AW you claim, but I'd be interested to see something that supports what you claim. My experience working with AW has been that they don't care about canoes- or kayaks- or rafts- or SUP boards- or river boards. They care about rivers and access to rivers. The industry supports them much more than they support the industry, but in the end the benefit is mutual. They've got some (some being a whopping 7) great people working for them, and doing great work.

[RodeoClown]

xmas - I just might do that for fun... maybe a rapid or two... but only if I can get the kayaker to agree to take my boat down the same rapids... I can only guess how the video would turn out.

Heck, I'm game.

[phreon]

This could be a thread of it's own, but I'm to the point where I feel like it deserves a response.

admiting we should be allowed on whitewater ain't going to help you get Lelands or Suttons seat on the AW (american kayaker)

Actually Sutton isn't on the board anymore. You must mean the current pres, Don Kinser

Total thread hijack: Holy crap. How the *&%@ did he get that Caption that far out of the water? Is it a pure boof off that rock? What's upstream I'm missing?

Doug

[Craig Smerda]

hmmmmmm...?

I heard from a reliable source that Leland was seen in a red canoe with wood gunnels last weekend on the Green... smiling?

I also believe Leland was the first to run GoLeft in a canoe... Prelude I believe...
edit---> http://www.brushymountainpublishing.com ... bigger.jpg

jus sayin'

[drrpm]

The picture of Don Kinser was a low water run of Soc em Dog on section 4 of the Chattooga. The rock is what forms the launching pad. Don is a butt boater too now.[/quote]

[Craig Smerda]

I'd say that's a fairly stout drop... how about you guys?

[Louie]

Don has always been a butt boater even when he paddle a canoe, sorta like someone else. You should have found a picture of Chris Kelly he pimped for the AW (American kayaker). My examples are old, back before you were really serious or even started, however they ain't changed a bit. I could tell you about the 1990 rodeo and Perception gift of a trailer, the refusal of Ambrose to publish letter he doesn't agree with, Singleton slamin and lyin about people once he is sure the club new letter won't print rebuttals. The countless articles about the death of open boatin, the "Canoe Editions" with five raft stories and two flat water canoe trip. However I am sure that none of this would matter. Keep singin their praises, I bet there is a BOD seat with your name on it. Hang out with more Canoes and less boat boaters and you might get to the truth.

[CosmikDebris]

my "friends" (the people forced to be around me) are some of the most down to earth guys i have ever met so...

I totally agree with you, LP.