The Esquif Lèdge

horizongfx · Post by **horizongfx** » Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:30 pm

Craig Smerda wrote:

Post by **PAC** » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:52 pm

Ahem....

Just repeating the gentle reminder!

Smurfwarrior · Post by **Smurfwarrior** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:55 am

And on a lighter note, LEDGE SUPing!!!!!!!!

OC_1 · Post by **OC_1** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:05 pm

I am suppose to be having one coming in hopefully next Friday. what are the recommendations on the open boat for air bag size

Craig Smerda · Post by **Craig Smerda** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:33 pm

OC_1 wrote:I am suppose to be having one coming in hopefully next Friday. what are the recommendations on the open boat for air bag size

48"

Smurfwarrior · Post by **Smurfwarrior** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:33 pm

Gaia Medium (48") fit perfectly, can't see how open or closed would effect that.

Wendy · Post by **Wendy** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:55 am

Had a fantastic river trip on upper and lower Russell Fork. The L'Edge was excellent. Ended second day with a hair raising seal launch after trying to boof. The rock dried out when the boat spun so I was teetering on the edge of a 3 foot ledge with possible nasty stuff below if I flipped. It took many minutes but after the boat shifted downstream I was able to wiggle the stern upstream and seal launch without flipping. Wade has a pic. The bulkhead outfitting kept me snug and the edges were just recessed enough to not fight. Go L'edge. Thanks to my peeps for their patience.

BillOC1 · Post by **BillOC1** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:39 pm

Having trouble rolling the ledge. Roll whitesells and ocoees but when I tip onside and do my hip snap and side across on my paddle I keep hitting the side of the ledge with my arm or head. Any suggestions? Seems to roll different than traditional canoes.

marclamenace · Post by **marclamenace** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:49 pm

Yeah gunnel are high which makes it dry but a bit harder to roll in so that you have to reach further with the paddle. Put the t-grip a bit higher on your chest instead of stomach... Didn't roll a ledge myself but if it's like the prelude it just takes a bit of practice for the correct form, isn't much more difficult once used to it in fact. Good luck!

Craig Smerda · Post by **Craig Smerda** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:10 pm

1-2 seconds... http://vimeo.com/15413675

BillOC1 · Post by **BillOC1** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:50 pm

Looks like the ledge rolls with a high brace roll. I still am having trouble with the low brace roll as I keep stalling out half way up. I'll have to try this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i1pqVCstkM

Craig Smerda · Post by **Craig Smerda** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:02 pm

http://vimeo.com/20908206

I've had the flu/sinus/cold funk since last Tuesday... didn't make it to the pool last Thursday to get the rest of the shots/angles I was hoping to. I'll get back to the project as soon as I can find some nice clear water...

marclamenace · Post by **marclamenace** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:48 pm

Well bill... Pretty much any canoe could be rolled with a high brace (feels even easier with C1s) but it isn't exactly the easiest nor shoulder-safest roll.

It can certainly be done, especially when you've got some help from the current like it was shown in the video you refered to but if you are having problems rolling standard I would say maybe stay away from that type of roll for now...

FullGnarlzOC · Post by **FullGnarlzOC** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:34 pm

Bill - that was a hole assisted high brace roll in that video. If you'd like to have an effective roll I suggest not using a high brace.

Instead - use a normal low brace, but sweep toward your bow as you come into the boat. This will help still apply enough pressure to let ur body sweep in the boat at a higher position, thus avoiding the gunnels.

It's not a ledge, but it shows what i'm talking about. And you can even see whats happening

http://www.fullgnarlz.com/videos/video/ ... canoe-roll

Craig Smerda · Post by **Craig Smerda** » Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:34 pm

FullGnarlzOC wrote:Bill - that was a hole assisted high brace roll in that video. If you'd like to have an effective roll I suggest not using a high brace.

Instead - use a normal low brace, but sweep toward your bow as you come into the boat. This will help still apply enough pressure to let ur body sweep in the boat at a higher position, thus avoiding the gunnels.

It's not a ledge, but it shows what i'm talking about. And you can even see whats happening

http://www.fullgnarlz.com/videos/video/ ... canoe-roll

Nice Tommy. Our rolls are a bit different. I'm sweeping the bow with the blade as I tuck forward, then extending outward and coming up on the powerface. I don't really feel there's a right way or a wrong way to roll... whatever works for people as long as they're not swimmin'. Figure out what works best for you... dial it in and stick with it. Sometimes getting into different boats require modifications to one's roll. When going from the SpanishFly to the CUFly... the first time I flipped over in the CUFly I used my normal rolling method... fail... went back under and found I had to extend my body out a bit further to increase my leverage... worked. Like I said... as long as people have a method they like that keeps 'em from doing their Mark Spitz impersonation... I'm cool with it.

Now this is "roll practice"... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vyAkNgz7AA

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