last time i talked to jeremy he was planning to attend armada with a few options.
as far as choosing between option & ledge...price was a big factor for me, and the size of the option was a little better fit for me(5'10" 180). not that i don't like the ledge, i do. it's a great boat. i meant to use the option as a creeker, and i think it's size is optimal for that use at my size. if i was 220 or so, i'd have to take a harder look at it but still, i really like the hull, so who knows.
Blackfly Option Review
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Ledge/Option/Ion testdrive
At the NOC Shootout this weekend, I was able to try out all three boats in rapid succession. I took the L'edge downriver for about an hour (class I-II), played and surfed the Option for about 40 minutes, and tested the Ion for 15.
The L'edge:
The L'edge did what it said it would and well. It was the decked model and was astoundingly dry. Short and rockered, I would come down on standing waves with a resounding thoomp! (very weird to adjust to the plastic-y noises) but each wave was shed away from the deck, and I bobbed right along. Stable and fun, I did not find the weight of even the decked model impossible, or noticeably different than my big ol' roylex Mohawks. It paddled just fine with a few inches of water, very stable, but a pig when half-full (demo boat had just tiny airbags, though) So stable i didn't even notice the "big rapid" on that section of river--floated right through.
The issue I noticed that I could not get over was the Ledge's inability to hang onto an eddy. This could easily be lack of skill or unknowledge of such short boats, but every time I snapped into an eddy, I would find myself drifting right out of the bottom of it, with no discernible change in downstream speed. this was disheartening, and i don't know why the boat did not respond differently to the river currents. I often could NOT paddle back up into the eddy, or it would at least take inordinate effort. A simple "attainment" (really just switching from one eddy to another part of the same across a small downstream current) was impossible.
This was a little disheartening, because eddy hopping is a true joy of my river experience. I feel all of these eddies and moves would have been easy, satisfying, and comfortable in my longer Viper 11.
The ledge did roll up pretty easy after some sidesurfing/swamping, though it took me a minute to figure out how to get the water out of the decked version. (turning the boat upside down should do it, right?)
The Option:
Jeremy let me demo the Option, and after the Ledge, I was already wondering if such a short boat was for me. I was not able to take it down river, but I did float a few hundred yards downstream through some waves enough to see that it seemed to handle similarly. It was still short enough that ferrying and chasing distant targets was tricky, but I was able to eek out some riverwide ferries with effort.
I did not experience the same problem catching eddies, but the environment was different. though not snappy or edgy, I could clearly eddy out, peel out, and catch mid-river surf waves.
Surfing is where the Option Really started to shine and prove predictable, fun, and generally awesome. The Ledge did not offer me the handling I immediately expected when pointed upstream, but surfing the Option was a blast!
I wish I'd had time to take 'er downstream, and I should have tried rolling it (so stable and dry, even when plunging the nose in there was no need to roll or brace big.)
The Ion:
Noticeably lighter. I only had a hair of time at this point, and wish I had more. My main thought was: if you're going to jump to a small plastic boat, why not go all the way!? I really expected to like the Ion a lot, especially since I'm a light paddler (130#)
It did not disappoint, but I did not get to try it on very large waves. It held a line in flat water, and I could paddle straight, ferrying was definitely more difficult, I could get VERY quickly up to speed to jump across eddy lines, peeling out, edges, stability all seemed predictable. Two strokes is all you need to be at (probably top speed)
My disappointment after the option is that I really could not surf it at all. perhaps I was just on the wrong size wave, or again, *don't know what I'm doing,* but I couldn't keep it from washing right out. maybe I need a tinier micro-wave, or to go straight to the gnar, but the glassy, curling wave the option loved did nothing for it. It was trickier, but not impossible to fight current to get on the wave, (tracked decently upstream, really) but nothing doing once you were there.
BEST UNSUNG FEATURE OF THE ION: It is so short that you can connect your offside strokes into your onside strokes WITHOUT TAKING YOUR PADDLE OUT OF THE WATER. This was really cool, and a great feature for trying to get that tiny boat anywhere against downstream current. Heck, this is just stupid fun, and you'll find yourself doing it for no reason.
I want to take both of the Blackfly boats downriver and play more. I liked the outfitting a lot. An issue with all three boats was comfortably carrying them-the molded plastic edge digs into your shoulder. Perhaps a foam fix or future design opportunity.
The Verdict:
I think If i were to purchase one of these three, the Option is the safest bet for making me a happy paddler, especially considering I would likely end up on creeks with it, as well as river running/playing.
But I am pretty tempted to "go all the way" and abandon anything resembling long boats and go for the 6 foot traditional canoe, the Ion. It's unique enough that it would at least be unique.
The Ledge is the "prettiest" boat (that matters! If we didn't care about form and beauty, we'd kayak.) and the decked version is dry enough it might be worth getting used to, even though the wooden gunnels on the open are lovely.
I am also tempted to give the Prelude and the Ocoee another look, because I really missed the ability of a longer, better tracking boat to "get me where I want to be" in the river.
--Nathan
(photos below if it worked)
At the NOC Shootout this weekend, I was able to try out all three boats in rapid succession. I took the L'edge downriver for about an hour (class I-II), played and surfed the Option for about 40 minutes, and tested the Ion for 15.
The L'edge:
The L'edge did what it said it would and well. It was the decked model and was astoundingly dry. Short and rockered, I would come down on standing waves with a resounding thoomp! (very weird to adjust to the plastic-y noises) but each wave was shed away from the deck, and I bobbed right along. Stable and fun, I did not find the weight of even the decked model impossible, or noticeably different than my big ol' roylex Mohawks. It paddled just fine with a few inches of water, very stable, but a pig when half-full (demo boat had just tiny airbags, though) So stable i didn't even notice the "big rapid" on that section of river--floated right through.
The issue I noticed that I could not get over was the Ledge's inability to hang onto an eddy. This could easily be lack of skill or unknowledge of such short boats, but every time I snapped into an eddy, I would find myself drifting right out of the bottom of it, with no discernible change in downstream speed. this was disheartening, and i don't know why the boat did not respond differently to the river currents. I often could NOT paddle back up into the eddy, or it would at least take inordinate effort. A simple "attainment" (really just switching from one eddy to another part of the same across a small downstream current) was impossible.
This was a little disheartening, because eddy hopping is a true joy of my river experience. I feel all of these eddies and moves would have been easy, satisfying, and comfortable in my longer Viper 11.
The ledge did roll up pretty easy after some sidesurfing/swamping, though it took me a minute to figure out how to get the water out of the decked version. (turning the boat upside down should do it, right?)
The Option:
Jeremy let me demo the Option, and after the Ledge, I was already wondering if such a short boat was for me. I was not able to take it down river, but I did float a few hundred yards downstream through some waves enough to see that it seemed to handle similarly. It was still short enough that ferrying and chasing distant targets was tricky, but I was able to eek out some riverwide ferries with effort.
I did not experience the same problem catching eddies, but the environment was different. though not snappy or edgy, I could clearly eddy out, peel out, and catch mid-river surf waves.
Surfing is where the Option Really started to shine and prove predictable, fun, and generally awesome. The Ledge did not offer me the handling I immediately expected when pointed upstream, but surfing the Option was a blast!
I wish I'd had time to take 'er downstream, and I should have tried rolling it (so stable and dry, even when plunging the nose in there was no need to roll or brace big.)
The Ion:
Noticeably lighter. I only had a hair of time at this point, and wish I had more. My main thought was: if you're going to jump to a small plastic boat, why not go all the way!? I really expected to like the Ion a lot, especially since I'm a light paddler (130#)
It did not disappoint, but I did not get to try it on very large waves. It held a line in flat water, and I could paddle straight, ferrying was definitely more difficult, I could get VERY quickly up to speed to jump across eddy lines, peeling out, edges, stability all seemed predictable. Two strokes is all you need to be at (probably top speed)
My disappointment after the option is that I really could not surf it at all. perhaps I was just on the wrong size wave, or again, *don't know what I'm doing,* but I couldn't keep it from washing right out. maybe I need a tinier micro-wave, or to go straight to the gnar, but the glassy, curling wave the option loved did nothing for it. It was trickier, but not impossible to fight current to get on the wave, (tracked decently upstream, really) but nothing doing once you were there.
BEST UNSUNG FEATURE OF THE ION: It is so short that you can connect your offside strokes into your onside strokes WITHOUT TAKING YOUR PADDLE OUT OF THE WATER. This was really cool, and a great feature for trying to get that tiny boat anywhere against downstream current. Heck, this is just stupid fun, and you'll find yourself doing it for no reason.
I want to take both of the Blackfly boats downriver and play more. I liked the outfitting a lot. An issue with all three boats was comfortably carrying them-the molded plastic edge digs into your shoulder. Perhaps a foam fix or future design opportunity.
The Verdict:
I think If i were to purchase one of these three, the Option is the safest bet for making me a happy paddler, especially considering I would likely end up on creeks with it, as well as river running/playing.
But I am pretty tempted to "go all the way" and abandon anything resembling long boats and go for the 6 foot traditional canoe, the Ion. It's unique enough that it would at least be unique.
The Ledge is the "prettiest" boat (that matters! If we didn't care about form and beauty, we'd kayak.) and the decked version is dry enough it might be worth getting used to, even though the wooden gunnels on the open are lovely.
I am also tempted to give the Prelude and the Ocoee another look, because I really missed the ability of a longer, better tracking boat to "get me where I want to be" in the river.
--Nathan
(photos below if it worked)
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Blackfly Option
I paddled a Ledge on the Ocoee last year. I paddled the Blackfly (Dooley's) and I paddled the Blackfly Option. I now own a Blackfly and two Blackfly Option's. The Blackfly Option is a badarse canoe. I plan on buying another one and an Ion by Cheatfest. The Blackfly product is great with no failures reported.
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Options
I like the look of the Option and Ion - anyone know if these are available in the UK and mainland europe? Any Options in the UK currently?
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I tried out an Option a couple weeks ago, on a 2 mile continuous 3/4 river. It felt amazingly stable and predictable for such a short canoe. It handled very well even full of water. This being a test drive on a river I was on 2 weeks prior at the same level, I put it thru the same moves as my previous run and tried to swamp it on purpose. I WANT one for creeking and technical small rivers